Objection 5.9: Jesus was not born of a virgin; this idea is based on a pagan myth

Is the idea of the virgin birth based on paganism or Judaism?

[eschmutte]

Acts 13:22-23
[22]And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
[23]Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Romans 1:3
[3]Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

[nicbentulan]

i wish you'd talk more about those other births like in greek/roman mythology, hinduism or buddhism huhuhuhu

[DivineIntervention-xe]

Funny, I witness creations marviouls accident and slumber from that big bang to the start of the last century and i still have not found my name in any of history, and im way older than Jesus. Anyways, be good to each other as Gods here with hou as one of you.❤

[crisseven]

Micah 5says the Messiah’s origins are from Ancient Times. Isaiah 9:6 calls him Might God. In Daniel 7 the Messiah is portrayed as a divine figure. In Isaiah 48:16 and 49 (among many other verses), the Messiah is already speaking in the manner as YHWH and even called YHWA in other places like Genesis 19. Therefore, it makes total sense that he would bbe incarnated through a virgin birth. After all, Isaac the son of the covenant was super naturally born as well.

[shawn]

So are you saying you believe he was indeed born of a virgin or not?

[naummihajlovski]

2 But there were also false prophets(A) among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.(B) They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord(C) who bought them(D)—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct(E) and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed(F) these teachers will exploit you(G) with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

(2 Peter 2:1-3)
That's all from me, good bye!

[kac]

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV

[DivineIntervention-xe]

No no body in the heaven or hereafter area needed, but im going to keep the image of my meat suit just because this container has been one dam good tuff and ridable one. We dont die, and can when we see fit as all of you too have the ability in you to heal with touch and stay young, you all grow old frail and get sickly and die simply because this is the way you were taught and my freinds this is not true. You choose when to die not when your parents say, there are a handful of humans here that are a few hundred years old but look 34. They know as i know who they are.

[hometracksstudios]

Does the Tanach say, the messiah would be an adopted son of David? seem to me there are three jesus..1. the jesus of the virgin birth, 2. jesus of mathews geneology 3. the jesus of lukes geneology.. which one is the messiah?

[MitzvosGolem]

Isaiah 7:14 says Young woman .
Isaiah 11 never happened.
JC is not from King David paternal line.
Messianic Christian Church nonsense.

[kac]

God has always provided hard evidence for the things He had taught. In the days of Isaiah, some 700 years before the Messiah was born, God revealed, "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel" (Isaiah 7:14). A woman cannot bear a child without a father. This sign that God offered would be unique in the history of the world.

Notice that what your friends are doing is trying to add additional reasons for the birth beyond what God has said. There is no passage saying that sins are inherited; it says the opposite actually in Ezekiel 18:20. There is no passage saying that Jesus was born of a virgin to avoid inheriting sin. This is a case where people have decided what was to be, and then seek ways to explain away the objections.

Jesus had Mary as his mother and God as his father. Luke in chapter 3 shows that Jesus was a descendant of Adam; thus, the term "Son of Man" is an appropriate description of Jesus. Matthew points out the Jesus was Immanuel (Matthew 1:23); thus, the term "Son of God" is also an appropriate description of Jesus.

[maheshkumar.m]

Is there any Jews who can explain me Malachi 3:1
"Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts".
Malachi:3:1

[Pencraft]

Isiah 7:14: Behold a virgin shall be with child, and he will be called Immanual

[danielmorais]

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Philippians 2:10-11

[romitsu]

Repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ that has died for sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and let the Holy Spirit within you, and you shall be saved.

[MultiRm]

Watching Tovia attack the church with his smirks has led me to the same conclusion Dr Brown. It’s like, if it wasn’t true why build all these false accusations against a false religion

[damiendevil]

Parthenos is actually the root word for Parthenogenesis which is the female induced creation of a viable child without sexual conception.

[cyprescrow]

The idea of virgin birth is to symbolically show, give the image of a coming to birth spiritually. Coming to birth in the flesh is one thing. Virgin birth is to explain the high spiritual realisation of someone who has, sort of, left the ordinary human existence with it´s sexuality, cravings and desires behind. One sometimes speaks of a second birth. To die from the old and be born in the spirit. This is a symbolic that one finds in basically all the myths and religions of the world. It doesn´t mean that someone is literally born from a woman who hasn´t been impregnated.

[inhistorystorytelling]

I disagree. The Bible did borrow some ideas from neighboring cultures. Some of the BIBLE characters and scribes came from so called pagan belief systems and was raised in it. That does not mean we can not believe in the Bible, but we should admit the obvious truth. Try it. It will deepen ones faith.

[michaelmarkin]

Let’s for a second play pretend and that Almah does indeed mean “virgin”. Even though we both know in Hebrew whoever this almah virgin or not is already pregnant, past tense.

How does Jesus in the future fit into the context of the story that is happening in Isaiah 7?

Isaiah 7 and 8 are well connected chapters and speak of the kings that are at war with Jerusalem.

The sign was never a virgin giving birth but the kings would be destroyed when the child knew to choose good vs evil, just like the boy in chapter 8 would say mom and dad, the kings would be destroyed that’s the sign!

Come on now dr brown let’s play fair and by context