Should Intel Have Just Refreshed The 10900K as The 11900K?

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Should Intel Have Just Refreshed The 10900K as 11900K?

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[inmypaants]

Great content, love the smaller bite from the bigger Q&A. I know a few people who have built their 5 year PC recently and picked up 10th gen due to availability and pricing. I don’t disagree with your comments and what Intel should have done, but the Avenue they took ultimately resulted in three things... 1) it strengthens the proposition of 10th gen and has still resulted in price to performance recommendations. 2) they have feature parody with AMD, e.g PCIE 4.0 and 3) they are continuing to push forward with scheduled releases which means more to shareholders than what a lot of the DIY market care about.
Just my views on why they did what they did.

[shaneeslick]

G'day Tim & Steve,
I know you were both very disheartened by the i9-11900K,
but my train of thought is...
Due to Core Sizing causing whatever problems Intel didn't want in Desktop they should have reverted back to 7000 marketing, up to i7 Kaby Lake Desktop & i9 Skylake HEDT,
so Desktop should have stopped at the i7-10700K 8c/16t, with i9-11900K 10c/20t on the larger HEDT Substrate

[Yusufyusuf-lhdw]

I feel that intel or amd cannot cancel the product so close to launch. Not because of reputation but because there is a whole ecosystem including software and hardware partners that have already sank money and effort into the project.
What intel could have done is release the 11900k as 11700k and then refresh 10900K with some cosmetic enhancements and release as 11900k at a slightly lower price . So it will retain the good multi threaded performance of comet lake. At the same time intel have a product that beats the 5800x at the midrange in the form of 11900k (rebranded as 11700k) .

[joechang]

Intel's first action should be to fix their segmentation. It is stupid to try spanning the processor price range from $60? to $10K with only 2 active sockets (1200/1700 for clients, and 3647/4189 for SP). Some if not many will be sub-optimal either in cost or capability. the low-end on the 1200/1700 socket should top out at 6-cores? the high-end with 8 mem ch + multi-socket capability should probably be 24+ cores. This means that 8-20 core range should have an intermediate socket, the 2011 is probably good at 4 mem channels and 40 PCI-e lanes - more if the UPI is removed (or retained for an FPGA).
Whether Intel simultaneously sells an 8-core Rocket lake concurrent with a 10-core Comet lake can be considered

[enzicoxe]

yes; i feel like it wouldve been good (at the same price as the 10700kf, so you either have more cores, or better single core performance

[TheMasterOfSafari]

Haven't finished video yet, but definitely x)