Enough of PRIDE 🏳️‍🌈 @JordanBPeterson

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Yep. A few generations stripped of their moral compass and ethical conduct

mattmc
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If we're going to celebrate a vice at a bank, it should be greed not pride.

joesouthwell
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Makes you question if those Christian churches are on the right path if they're celebrating the cardinal Christian sin

nicholasm
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After 9/11 the surge of 'Pride' paraphenalia bothered me. It was a very, nonspecific pride, simply at being American. Not pride in specific, good things intrinsic in the American way of life.
Decades later it seems clear to me that it all fit very well in with the mindset that wars were the answer to 9/11.

mfawls
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I think people should celebrate pride on their own time.

davidcampbell
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Ezekiel Chapter 1, he sees a rainbow encircling the throne of God. I’m sure the devil might have seen it in person too. Pride is his sin and he wants to sit on God’s throne.

BibleBuddyK
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Same, I went to the bank and there was pride everywhere I just laughed

SparkyStarLPS
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Peterson: I don't wanna celebrate pride! 😡
Also Peterson: Gay adoption is totally fine 😊

DRAGNFLY
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Its a shame how an intelligent person like Mr. Peterson purposely confuses the gay right movements word Pride with the biblical Pride.
The first means overcome shame of the own difference to heteros.
Positive comment about Mr. Peterson: he is supporting gay marriage and gay adoption.
I hope that helps.

Pro-jq
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Dear Christopher West, I sent you an email to the Theology of the Body Institute - from Jonah. I’d appreciate a response. God bless you. I admire your work a lot

lifematterspodcast
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Twisting of God's covenant with mankind.

Lightprophet
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Dr. West, I am very interested in knowing how you would respond to this argument in favor of monogamous same-sex blessings:

The issue of gays and their rights to enjoy love in the way heterosexuals do has been at the forefront of late. I am not referring to one-night hookups which are forbidden in the same way they are for heterosexuals but rather, couples living in loving monogamous same-sex relationships that reflect the love God has for all His subjects.

While I agree that gay marriage as defined presently by the Catholic Church is not possible, there remains a growing effort for the Church to recognize the love, partners in monogamous gay unions, have for each other. While this type of marriage sacramentally is not possible, allow me to explain what might be.

There is a social/sexual revolution coming in the Church. In one aspect of this coming revolution, the Church wants to expound on Pope John Paul’s central idea in “Theology of the Body” and how it centers on the fact that God wants a deep intimate loving relationship with each of us in the same way a committed monogamous heterosexual couple enjoys. It is not meant to reflect this in the physical sense but is mirrored in that way, to reflect the deep love God has for each of us, and the Church attempts to bring to light, to celebrate the joy and exultation that comes from such a love.

The Catholic Church’s stance on homosexuality has long been that it is not inherently sinful, as a person does not choose to be either homosexual or heterosexual. However, the Church has always taught that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered” and “contrary to natural law”. According to the Catholic theology on sexuality, all sexual acts must be open to procreation by nature and express the symbolism of male-female complementarity.

The Catholic Church’s stance on homosexuality has been founded on the belief in a natural order created by God, as it has been based on the idea that sexual acts should be by the natural law of procreation and male-female complementarity. This theology has been used to form the Church’s view on the sacrament of Marriage and the notion that marriage is only permitted for a union between a man and a woman. “Male and female he created them.” (Gen. 1:27)

Recent scientific developments, however, may influence how the Church addresses this issue in the future. Some feel God may be working in His Church to rectify a wrong that has survived for centuries. Could the coming changes in the Church and yes, changes are coming, possibly be the work of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus promised? Could Pope Francis be His messenger in all of this?

The principle of doctrinal development in Catholicism allows for the Church's understanding of its teachings to evolve and develop over time while still preserving the core truths of the faith. Some examples of this are Original Sin, the Trinity and the doctrine of Purgatory, the Holy Eucharist, the Canon of Scripture, religious liberty, social justice, and the role of women in the Church and society, but to name a few. Should the beliefs of the Church in the area of homosexuality and same-sex unions not evolve as well, when presented with modern scientific evidence that proves otherwise or, should She remain with Her head in the sand in the interest of maintaining the status quo and “preserving the gospel”? The Catechism says, the Church and Her theology, cannot be at odds with science (CCC 159). The Church teaches that faith and reason must always be in agreement or, one or both, are in error (CCC 36, 286).

The idea of the Church evolving or developing Her doctrine on homosexuality is comparable to the situation Galileo experienced. The Church branded him a heretic and confined him to house arrest for the remainder of his life because he went against the Church teaching that the Sun revolved around the Earth. Galileo's heliocentric views were considered contrary to the interpretation of Scripture prevalent at the time. The Catholic Church held a geocentric view based on a literal interpretation of certain biblical passages. Galileo was summoned to recant his views and was ultimately found guilty of heresy for refusing to do so. He claimed the Earth revolved around the Sun. This was a situation for which Pope John Paul II later formally apologized.

Medical experts have stated they can find no studies to show that homosexuality is an abnormality in the human person. Experts now widely agree (American Psychological Association (APA), World Health Organization (WHO), American Medical Association (AMA), World Medical Association (WMA), National Academy of Sciences (NAS), National Library of Medicine, and many other numerous research studies) that homosexuality is a natural variation of human sexuality rather than a conscious choice made by individuals or an unnatural disorder the homosexual was born with.

Scientific studies NOW conclude that homosexuality will make up 3% of the population, no matter what, and that homosexuality IS part of the natural order. So, it seems our knowledge of this matter has changed. Should not our theology develop and evolve in light of these new findings? After all, aren’t homosexuals made in the image and likeness of God, as we all are?

The idea that homosexuality does not form part of the natural order seemingly has never been defined infallibly other than as taught by Bishops and the Popes throughout history. In light of these individuals never having had the benefit of the scientific information we now have today, that homosexuality forms part of the natural order (3%), the issue of blessing same-sex monogamous unions should be revisited.

If we are not to dispute the scientific and medical consensus, the question then becomes, are homosexuals not allowed to carry out God’s plan of love and commitment in the best way possible, in loving monogamous same-sex unions? Are they not allowed to participate in true love and commitment that mirrors Christ’s love for us on the cross in the same way heterosexual couples who have impediments to marriage, are given dispensations by the Church, even though they cannot fulfil all marriage requirements? It is through no fault of their own, that gays are who they are. God made them as surely as he made you and me, and we all know, God doesn’t make junk.

crazyedswonderfulworldofso
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Celebrating irritation and hate. That’s much better

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