Twisted: Scripture Misused 2 – Romans 9

2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
We are in the 2nd week of our Twisted series. Last week we untwisted Jeremiah 29:11. In this Sermon Pastor Chris Fluitt takes a look at the entire chapter of Romans 9.
There are some that think Romans 9 reveals a God who predestined everything. Some take it to mean that God even predetermines where we will spend eternity… that God has predetermined some people for Hell and some people for Heaven. Romans 9 speaks of Election and the hardening hearts. It speaks of a Potter who seeks to form the clay into a vessel of His choosing. What is the Apostle Paul telling us?
How does God work? Is it through control & coercion or through influence & relationship? Are we given free will or is everything decided by God before we are born?
A key to correctly handling the “Word of Truth” is to look for a summary. Sometimes Scripture is difficult to understand. Many times the writer will sense this themselves and do something to help the reader. The writer will summarize their argument. Romans 9 has more than one revealing summarization.

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[thebestdothereis]

Who, Whom, Whose
Notes: These are usually the translations of forms of the relative pronoun hos, or of the interrogative pronoun tis; otherwise of hostis, "whoever, " usually of a more general subject than hos, e.g., Mar_15:7; Luk_23:19; Gal_2:4; hosos, "as many as, " Heb_2:15; in Act_13:7, KJV, houtos, "this (man), " is translated "who, " RV, "the same."

notice that these verses were not dealt with:
(Rom 9:17-18 EMTV) For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very thing I have raised you up, that I may show MY power in you, and that MY NAME may be proclaimed in all the earth."
(18) So then HE has mercy on whom HE wills, and whom HE wills HE hardens.

(Exo 9:15-16 BSB) For by this time I could have stretched out MY hand and struck you and your people with a plague to wipe you off the earth. (16) But I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display to you MY power, and that MY NAME might be proclaimed in all the earth.

(Pro 16:4 GNB) Everything the LORD has made has its destiny; and the destiny of the wicked is destruction.

(Exo 15:1-21 ALEX-LXX) Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song to God, and spoke, saying, Let us sing to the Lord, for he is very greatly glorified: horse and rider he has thrown into the sea.
(2) He was to me a helper and protector for salvation: this is my God and I will glorify him; my father's God, and I will exalt him.
(3) The Lord bringing wars to nought, the Lord is his name.
(4) He has cast the chariots of Pharao and his host into the sea, the chosen mounted captains: they were swallowed up in the Red Sea.
(5) He covered them with the sea: they sank to the depth like a stone.
(6) Thy right hand, O God, has been glorified in strength; thy right hand, O God, has broken the enemies.
(7) And in the abundance of thy glory thou hast broken the adversaries to pieces: thou sentest forth thy wrath, it devoured them as stubble.
(8) And by the breath of thine anger the water parted asunder; the waters were congealed as a wall, the waves were congealed in the midst of the sea.
(9) The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoils; I will satisfy my soul, I will destroy with my sword, my hand shall have dominion.
(10) Thou sentest forth thy wind, the sea covered them; they sank like lead in the mighty water.
(11) Who is like to thee among the gods, O Lord? who is like to thee? glorified in holiness, marvellous in glories, doing wonders.
(12) Thou stretchedst forth thy right hand, the earth swallowed them up.
(13) Thou hast guided in thy righteousness this thy people whom thou hast redeemed, by thy strength thou hast called them into thy holy resting-place.
(14) The nations heard and were angry, pangs have seized on the dwellers among the Phylistines.
(15) Then the princes of Edom, and the chiefs of the Moabites hasted; trembling took hold upon them, all the inhabitants of Chanaan melted away.
(16) Let trembling and fear fall upon them; by the greatness of thine arm, let them become as stone; till thy people pass over, O Lord, till this thy people pass over, whom thou hast purchased. (17) Bring them in and plant them in the mountain of their inheritance, in thy prepared habitation, which thou, O Lord, hast prepared; the sanctuary, O Lord, which thine hands have made ready. (18) The Lord reigns for ever and ever and ever.
(19) For the horse of Pharao went in with the chariots and horsemen into the sea, and the Lord brought upon them the water of the sea, but the children of Israel walked through dry land in the midst of the sea.
(20) And Mariam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, having taken a timbrel in her hand — then there went forth all the women after her with timbrels and dances.
(21) And Mariam led them, saying, Let us sing to the Lord, for he has been very greatly glorified: the horse and rider has he cast into the sea.

[joshpeterson]

No, Paul is not concerned with just Israel. If you actually read the passage, you’d arrive at the conclusion where Paul says God called not just the Jews, but also us (Gentiles). This is absolutely about individuals. After all, verse 6 raises the problem, “Why have so many of God’s people, the Jews, not believed in Jesus?” That’s dealing with individuals, not a nation. The passage is also about salvation because Paul uses the word “called” multiple times. That’s a salvific term. Go read Romans 8:28-30. Calling always results in salvation. Paul did not change the definition of “call” in just a couple verses when he uses it in Romans 9. This is terrible exegesis.