The Hornsent gate of divinity wasn't the first | Elden Ring Lore

In this video we search of the original divine gate and try to find the common factor between Farum Azula, Enir-Elim and the eternal cities as well as explain how the divine gate actually works.

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Worth noting that the first NPC to mention the divine gate calls it "A" Divine Gate. Not "The" Divine gate. They seem to be a well known concept and not a singular instance.

[finalbreath]

A "comical amount of bodies" is an interesting way to put it

[necromaster]

The freshness of the corpses has me wondering if the purpose of the jar saint ritual was to create a suitable "divine mortar" for the construction of the gate?

[nzaro]

Minor Erdtree incantation is found in Shaman Village where as 'Protection of the Erdtree' is found in Dominula village, not sure if theres a connection but was interesting to discover

[WanderedIn]

Personally I think Marika did manage to have the Golden Order last much longer than a thousand years - because the world is trapped in stagnation. I think Marika succeeded at delaying the change of the age and it was awful for her and for everyone else - hence her attempt to shatter the Elden Ring, as she learned the agony of eternal life.

[jackjones]

09:23 when you put all the runes together like this it looks like the growth pattern of bacteria or fungi if you just put a single inoculation in the center of an agar plate. In the final Rune there is not enough nutrients left in the center of the plate to support life any longer leaving a dead circle while life continues to thrive at the edges where there is still plenty of nutrients. As life in the center dies, the nutrients left from the death of the original colony there may support the growth of new life, returning from the edges of the plate as descendants of the dead center. Damn this games got me seeing metaphors for the rise and fall of civilisations in every little detail they can't have thought of all this right? I must be crazy

[SenseiSifuMaster]

I think whats ironic is that Godwyn is probably the only one who obtained God-Hood in some strange manner. Though like his Mother, its imprisonment.

[Technique]

I see you are interested in re-exploring Farum azula. Then I recommend you watch the latest video by Occam’s onion on the eclipse and how it destroyed Farum azula.
Btw amazing analysis as always.

[JulioCesar-cibq]

I think the "Spirit Energy" beein runes in the game is probably true, it plays on the law of regression too, that one can absorb the energy of something else and become one with it. That being said, I think that theme of sacrifice is probably the represented way to say that something needs to go for you to get those runes. So I think that is why we dont see that with miquella or ranni when they become gods, they dont need to sacrifice and torture a bunch of people for their spirit or runes, they already sacrifice something with enough runes to ascend. With miquella we can assume he sacrifices himself and his great rune, with ranni I theorize that she sacrifices marika, since marika's body crumbles to dust in her ending, and we can see it desapear in golden dust. That would also explain why the lord of night never became a thing, they werent dropping enough runes for someone to pick up. The dragons just had a lot of spirit energy, runes, and were sacrificing themselves, and thats why they managed to do it. Just some fun brain activity I had watching the video.

[NATEHIGGERS]

Farum azula is stated to be the oldest civilization in the game, older than the ancient dynast, older than rauh and the nox. All of these civilizations were made by humans while farum azula seems to be made by dragons and beastman and mythical creatures.

[greatwarden]

Great work!

By the way, you mentioned the Law of Causation then the fact that history was only partly cyclical, allowing for variations within each cycle. If the Law of Causation is arguably karma viewed through a warped lens, the Law of Regression is samsara, which is the endless cycles bound by karma with variations each time.

[christianlaw]

I think you’re wrong about this specifically being influenced by berserk. In asoiaf the wierwood gate at the night fort is essentially a gate of divinity and wierwood are said to be fed blood. There are also said to be giants in the wall in the north of Westeros. I think this is grrms contribution.

[voraito]

Something that I found particularly interesting on a replay: Ensha is the name of the still-living ancient king whose remains are the Royal Remains set. An ancient king who lives in death, who the armor describes as a champion of the meek and the downtrodden, exactly as Godwyn is said to be now. I believe that Ensha is the ancient king of the Sun Realm as described on the stuff dropped by those who live in death and is the reason why deathroot is in Farum Azula. I believe the Godwyn situation is a repeat of something that already happened long ago

[tyzombie]

Can’t remember whether it was zulie or zayf, but one of them looked at the fused stone bodies behind the gate of divinity, and they ALSO have gold showing thru just like the stone dragons of farum azula. It’s exactly the same. In light of that, i think your theory is definitely correct!

[xoxowena]

Not saying the divine gate *isn't* built by hornsent necessarily but I think it's clear that the fresh bodies are likely Marika's doing no? Or an unknown actor (GEQ?)and the bodies are hornsent? They don't appear to have willingly just walked into this idk maybe I'm wrong but the implied betrayal of Marika makes me think that Marika was supposed to become a god of the spiral tree in some other manner not this horrifying ritual

[sealswimswim]

Live sacrifices were common for ancient goddesses. This might be a poetic, yet literal, way of Fromsoft displaying a kingdom built on bloodshed.

[Billyboy]

I dont know how I missed this video. It is epic that you cover this topic. Love the importance of the skinning festival and how you have used the festival in more recent videos. Great video

With Divine Gates, Carian structures will have a circular pool of water with chairs around the perimeter. Scrying pools or mirrors, in occult practice, act as "doorways" or "portals" to the spiritual realm. This is a theme in Bloodborne. But, this is to say that maybe the divine gates of Nox and Farum Azula are flat circle structures. Idk.

The idea of the hornsent coping a prior civilization, this is central to the Tower of Babel story and other ancient worldviews. I use the Greek poet Hesiod's idea of civilization have 5 stages.

Golden Age: the Numan are the Atlantean archetype of an advanced civilization without death. There is some sin, they fall from the sky, and death is introduced to the world. Rauh clan has traits of introducing sin. They hunted dragons to steal their power.
Silver age: with "death" introduced, now "change" or "rot" is also introduced. Agriculture is introduced. GEQ is a god of death introduced by prior sin. Her skinning rituals are akin to the Jewish "burnt offerings" which are meant as offerings to blot away sin.
Bronze age: age marked by war. Marika’s seduced to betray the GEQ and Metyr and to establish Golden Order. The Crucible Knights are a symbol of this epoch
Age of Heros: the adventure of the player in end the kingdom established by the Golden Order
Iron Age: new kingdom established by the player

[neither]

love the idea the dragons made the earliest gates of divinity. all this worldbuilding on a western cultural axis, I've always held in the fromsoft games that dragons are the eastern rep

[KenobiJonesey]

Sound theory for the most part but doesn’t Placidusax being his own god kind of contradict the passage about his god being “fled” and him awaiting its return?

[TheSkyfolk]

"A lord will usher in a god's return,
and the lord's soul will require a vessel."

I'm curious as to how you think Marika's ascension fits into this part of the rite. I don't think Godfrey has anything to do with this personally but what would that then imply about Radagon? Is he a combination of a fire giant corpse with a human soul? Was Marika a vessel for her own lord?