Does Ben Really Make More Money Now?

Benjamin was changed in update 42.0 to make less money early on, and more money at later levels. This really slows down his early game snowball, but can make up for it as he'll make $1,000 per round at level 11, $2,500 at level 15, and $5,000 a round for levels 17 and up.

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0:00 Ben's Changes
1:03 Boss Events
2:20 Impoppable
3:56 Takeaways

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[lecoindugamer]

as a ben 'main' i enjoy the change i always thought the early game with ben was a bit too easy because he payed himself off so quickly and later in the game his income wasnt enough im glad of that change

[halfhydra]

No one's even talking about how this impacts coop boss events. The old start was to just get 4 bens asap so that you had enough money for the ridiculous coop boss health scaling, and now with this change its much worse because with the hero xp split the bens will not reach level 11, or reach it so late that it won't make any impact anymore. I think that was the true intention behind this change.

[RancorSnp]

I think a very interesting question to ask the math is - since level 11 Ben starts giving significantly more money, how much money is Ben worth investing into - if any at all - to reach level 11 faster

[aethar]

i like the change alot just because it fits the curve to later game and can genuinely help when you have little to no room for farms on a few maps, not to mention the fact that you can purchase his later levels a bit sooner so you can hit that powerspike at 11 sooner is a genuinely good idea now instead of an afterthought for other heroes

[zhiz]

I saw somewhere someone asked an important question of whether and when it's favorable to buy levels for Ben.

[realshaperio]

short version:
boss: less money early game makes snowballing cash harder

regular gameplay (r. 40-80): helpful for clearing the tougher bloons, biohack makes the cheap defences like sub super strong. Extra money isnt really that noticable until round 70+

Impoppable: Absolutely, a little less money early game, but makes rounds 80+ a cakewalk with the flood of cash. You can probably afford super mines eithout even trying

Chimps: the best hero, solos a bad

[icetide]

You know this really ruins his CHIMPS potential. Now instead of making negative money, he makes negative money

[hadesKIU]

The real question is *how much* worse is he for boss events?


To me, it's an important question because Boss Events are, speaking from experience, extremely difficult for newer players, and anything that hurts them could be the breaking point between many people between being able to beat them or not, especially Elite Bosses.

Geraldo isn't really viable for newer players while bossing because he requires a lot more knowledge about things like fertilizer efficiency, knowing to save straight for NFT + Geraldo at the same time, knowing when to sell NFT, and since they're new, their farming likely won't be good enough to buy *back* the NFT, costing them tens if not hundreds of thousands, which is DPS tier 5 or even paragon money.

[trollsyou]

Dude I love the cult of the lambs music in the background of every video

[sunbleachedangel]

Basically Geraldo is now even more of a monster for Boss events, comparatively

[sinom_]

as a filthy casual i really appreciate the change. i like that i'm able to more comfortably place Ben as my only form of farming and see dividends in the later rounds. He feels less like the tower you use to start a snowball and more like the hero you use so you can get the benefits of econ without the micromanagement.

[btdoverclock]

Ben is overall worse for boss events especially before tier 1. By the time ben reaches 5k per round you should easily be making 100k+ a round and the reduced snowball in the early game means that ben's later levels don't have much of an impact. Ben is still the best hero for early game farming by far though and makes around 10k-15k more than geraldo with good farming.

[vincentang]

0:13 oh god that's a lot of farms. How much can be made by round 100? I'm trying candy falls for a high round run in general, got 1.3M with full merchantmen strat and only a few farms.

[danii]

Of course, because what desperately needed a buff was end game farming.

(I think this change kind of sucks)

[Ender]

I feel like paying to level Ben up is finally worth doing, since the increase to income is so staggering, it's like investing in a bank or something.

[lilia-ai]

As player 3, i am happy with benjamin changes

[VARVIS_]

Its always worth it to pay for ben to level up if its cheap now

[chasinslade-davis]

I love th8s change, it nerfs his snowballing for bosses, which is op so i understand, but makes him still super useful and relevant in the op farm meta

[ViIvaNunner]

as someone who doesnt particularly having more than one farm usually; ben being crazy money maker is really cool to me
too bad ill probably still stick with ezili most the time cause i like ezili

[pengdawnd]

Imma be honest I think this change makes Ben more reliant on banks, which is ironically NK's reasoning for the early game nerfs. Like yeah Ben doesn't pay himself back sooner, but they didn't touch his bank bonus, so just place a bank or two and all of the sudden nothing changed.