Does 'Advanced Civilization' Have To Mean iPhones & Cars? Proof Is In Our History That It Doesn't

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Ryan Graves is a former Lt. U.S. Navy and F/A-18F pilot who was the first active duty pilot to publicly disclose regular sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Today, Graves serves as the first Chair of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UAP Integration & Outreach Committee, Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, and is the founder of StarSense Innovations.

Host: Joe Rogan
Producer: Jamie Vernon
Episode: 2244

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Being raised in the sticks i remember seeing the city as a great place.Now that im older i can see why the native Americans didn't have any.lets all live right next to each other in filthy air and water? Pass..stickin to the sticks..😂

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