An atheist argues with a believer 🤔 | After Life | #movie

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'If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.' -Einstein.

davidfitnesstech
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This character is a constant reminder of why I use the terms “people of faith” and “religious” to differentiate between those who have a religion.

beneditooliveira
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I am a Muslim. But my fundamental belief is that if you need the threat of punishment to force you to be a good person, you’re probably not a good person anyway. Do good for the benefit of others and to be a decent person.

ShazaShafeeq
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If the threat of punishment is needed for you to be a "good person", than you are not a good person.

Best answer for this question.

Fion
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“If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of shit.”

- Rustin Cohle, “True Detective”

Inherent and intrinsic morals/virtues that stem from one’s philosophy they uphold for the very sake of upholding them - will always be more valuable than someone’s morals they uphold out of fear or love of a divine being.

SYONiQ
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Thank you for making atheist not feel like we are some wierdos.

Yes, you go love your religion. You go believe in your faith. But don't peer pressurize me into believing I'm lost because I don't follow a certain religion to have faith.

I don't have to worship an idol to be grateful for all the good things happening to me. If bad things happen, I'll just be like "welp, sh*t happens...gotta cry for a moment and move on". If I want to pray for a moment, I pray but not to an idol but to that person/event hoping things would go well.

I wish there are more people respectful to atheists.

Cuspofmagic
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"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." - Marcus Aurelious

Mijal
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These responses are straight to the point and entail every reason why life should be worth living and why this should not be done in fear or in the expectation of a reward after the fact.

philippschwartzerdt
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Perfect. The most hostile people I have ever known are those who say they believe they will be reborn in heaven yet of I question that they lose all self control and just cut me off. I think they are afraid of death more than I am. I know life is precious and we should live the best life we can because this is all we get. Be kind, be gracious and love hard.

katbow
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Change my mind.

If you need threat to not be a danger to others, you aren't someone that should be trusted.

It should be the default of it being unthinkable. Not the threat of punishment. It should be the understanding if you would not like it if one were to steal from you, hurt you and that would negatively affect you, that you wouldn't seek to cause that pain on another. By the nature of humans being human. Not of the threat of eternal torture. If that's all what keeps you from doing such things? You are no better than the raving lunatic that states if not for the laws of this land he would butcher.

Both are indictive of a lack of humanity. Something religion doesn't fix by the nature of being religion as that doesn't address the problem.

thegrayone
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What he is describing is true spirituality, not dogma of morality. His is about the moments of life and the divinity of simply being alive. She's just talking rules and laws.

ReturnToMatriarchy
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So believe this I have missed so many last times ie I never realised it was the last time I would walk through the door of a loved one ms house I always thought I would be able to do that people die and houses get sold, I regret not going out for dinner with my dad on the last day he drove the taxi after 50 years or celebrating the moment he relocated to Budgewoi life takes over and then you look back and you wonder how you could have missed the significance of these precious moments❤ my advice to me since realising this is to pay attention don’t take these things for granted try not to miss the moment because whatever task you are focused on will no doubt be still there but not that moment ❤ if we get out of this life having spread as much love, joy and hope to me that is a blessed life xxx

rlpupdates
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I believe in god. I am a Christian. And it is true life is precious. Because all the suffering you get in the years you’re here, makes the high points so much more worth it. Although i eventually intend to connect with my father in heaven, im grateful he gave me a chance to come down here.

XENO
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This is how most atheist actually think.
The girl also represents how other people specially the toxic religious ones see atheists.

tristan_
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that same argument can be use both ways, because life in heaven is not like on earth, so being at the point the things we do in earth ar valuable eather there is or not life after death,

Felipe-wnlp
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I binge-watched every season of the show over the course of a week and it's the only show that has brought me to tears with almost every episode. The show was so amazingly beautiful Ricky gervais just knocked it out of the park with this show.

bryankerbow
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Every time I see this acctress all I can think to say to her is: "Bears do have arms".

BananaNexus
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"you can believe in the afterlife if that makes you feel better but that doesn't mean its true"

MrWolf-emke
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If you act good because you fear the consequences of acting bad, you're not a good person. You're a coward.

nicholasjonas
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my guy just hit on why it is so important to the religions for us to believe, we would live our lives in our best interests instead of furthering a religous agenda otherwise.

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