Can Metaphysics Discern God II? | Episode 1705 | Closer To Truth

Can metaphysics discern God? How to think about God rationally, logically, profoundly, critically? Have no illusion that metaphysics can find God, but can a kind of progress be made? Featuring interviews with Brian Leftow, John Hawthorne, Robert Spitzer, John Cottingham, and Timothy O'Connor. Part 2 of 2.

Season 17, Episode 5 - #CloserToTruth

Closer To Truth host Robert Lawrence Kuhn takes viewers on an intriguing global journey into cutting-edge labs, magnificent libraries, hidden gardens, and revered sanctuaries in order to discover state-of-the-art ideas and make them real and relevant.

Closer to Truth presents the world’s greatest thinkers exploring humanity’s deepest questions. Discover fundamental issues of existence. Engage new and diverse ways of thinking. Appreciate intense debates. Share your own opinions. Seek your own answers.

#Metaphysics #God

[Arunava_Gupta]

Robert Lawrence Kuhn deserves a profuse thanks from all of us for bringing to us one of the most intellectually captivating shows of all time.

[NaturalFuture]

Finally, someone who acknowledges God as being made of a substance! If God is made of one component, I'd say it's reason. This is a substance general enough to include the many other things a God would need to possess the essence Swinburn mentioned: Will, power, knowledge, goodness, action, etc. For, all these are derived of reason. They exist for and because of reason. As for His existence not being contingent upon other things, even that must depend upon and be in harmony with Logic. God's existence is a result of logical possibility. His attributes must be as they are for God to exist. If God acts out of harmony with Logic, the result would be like a positive wave cancelling out a negative wave. For instance, if God destroys Himself, He can't will Himself back into existence; for His will can't exist separately from Him. As for His being unaware of the set of all true statements "because there isn't one, " I'm confident that God does know that set. After all, being far more intelligent that are we, isn't it logical to assume that He knows far more about logic, reason, and truth than do we? Obviously. And He knows all about vague statements, because, as the Designer of the human brain, He can read our minds. He knows what we're thinking, and why we think as we do. I agree that humans can discern if there's a God. I disagree that metaphysics can't be used to discern Him. Earlier, it was aaid that metaphysics is a tool useful in investigating the deep workings of existence. It helps us unveil the abstract foundational structures which underly and give rise to the physical things we detect through our senses and technology, and the many invisible ones we as yet can't, except via the mind. I love that you said you're skeptical about skepticism. Very nice, Robert!

[slawomirjakubek]

Those people who say that you are looking for the God in wrong places are right. Because God is love. And you won't find love in metaphysics, math or brain activity. You won't. To find God you need to find peace and love. To find peace you need to stop following desires of your body. And to find love you need to help someone. You imagine that God is something that He isn't. That is why you are looking for Him in wrong places. Just think about it for a moment: IF GOD IS LOVE HOW CAN YOU FIND HIM BY THINKING? Love is not thinking, love is action. Hope that helps.

[Ploskkky]

The question is not if metaphysics can discern god, but if we can discern metaphysics. :)
I love this channel. Thank you for making this available to us.

[melissaflanary]

Without a truth in history Its hard to know who you and where your going I am not trying to take away anything but to give

[andrewmoran]

One of my favorite delights Viewing Closer To Truth 🤔🙈👌👀

[davidumeda]

Perhaps humans can discern what have been called “signs” of God—an energy, a consciousness, a feeling—but it’s reasonable/logical to assume that creatures cannot fully comprehend their Creator: “ He hath through all eternity been exalted beyond the attributes of His creation, and will ever remain so. No man hath ever known him; no soul hath ever fathomed the nature of His Being.”

[Tom-mcts]

The deeper you go into science the more religion makes how is that possible and why does my brain struggle to accept that

[fahadbintarek]

I am also skeptical about people who are not non-skeptical about skepticism.

[RadicOmega]

Nagasawa? Swinburne? Van Inwagnen? Absolute Juggernauts

[chemigue]

Read Immanuel Kant and u will understand that we can not get rid of metaphysic.

[bipolarbear]

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
- Epicurus (341 - 279 BCE)

[ianchamblee]

So in other words, God speaks "creation" and creation is mapped by the equations that make up creation. Sounds paradoxical and rational at the same time

[paxanimi]

His description of god is amazing. How does he know all that about god ?

[BigDaddyBlais]

I wonder why the topic always has to revolve around God being omnipotent and omniscient instead of simply a conscious power that is far more advanced than we are. Either way the question of why you search for God is important too. In the omniscienct and omnipresent nature of your own mind and imagination do you allow evil, sorrow and hate to reign? Perhaps the search for God should not be aimed at the cosmos but directed at your own universe. One can make many reasonings that suffering and introspection are required for "soul evolution" in an Abrahamian context, that being said, what about God in a context of being our ultimate goal as life? If one contends that God does not exist ... can we instead strive towards becoming this idea of an honorable, all loving and all powerful? Do we seek to be that which we revere?

[RubelliteFae]

0:55 "Belief, for me, if ever I could believe, would be the end result."
That's a condition of knowledge, not belief.

[jmanj]

10:41 Yessir...lol. If metaphysics wasn't arguing both sides, then it wouldn't be metaphysics, would it?

[havenbastion]

God is real as a pattern in a mind and there are at many as there are people who have thought about it.
Whether they have an external referent is a separate question. All ideas of god include ineffable characteristics and are therefore indistinguishable from fiction. No version of god can be shown to be possible, much less plausible, much less actual. People typically skip the first two bits entirely.

[cvsree]

We should just believe in ourself. Not to be mistaken to being arrogant. Kind of opposite.

Yoga says:
Your true SELF is God. You just have to drop your chronic thinking 😃

Consciousness is God. Every living being is a reflection of God in an imperfect mirror

Read "be as you are" by David Goodman

[sharonlee]

Seek the Lord your God with all your heart soul💖🙏🇮🇱