Goku VS Saitama | Has Everything Changed?

In this video, I go over Son Goku from Dragon Ball / Z / Super and put him against Saitama from One-Punch Man. In a heavily requested rematch with Saitama getting new serious powers against Cosmic Garou.

[Includes information from the One Punch Man manga, anime, web-comic, guidebooks, blu-ray Compus mini-guide, ONEBUKURO 2, Dragon Ball / Z/ Super manga, anime, Daizenshuu, and author statements / interviews from both]

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[SethTheProgrammer]

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for canon in dragon ball, it is never defined as anything specific. it usually is just considered all one in the same. the scan talking about anime / manga canon provided wasn't my translation and isn't considered a valid scan / legit to some people. enjoy regardless though, sorry about that!

a lot of people are questioning if saitama was bloodlusted against garou or not. you can debate all you want about that, and while I think you can easily prove he can the term "bloodlusted" can also just be used to mean "going all out" or in this case, beyond his normal max power. whether he was trying to kill garou or not, garou is stated to have reached saitama's power and saitama had to get stronger. kind of stupid i even have to explain that, but some of you guys i see have common sense. much love

as for Goku higher dimensional scaling / immeasurable scaling, these are mainly examples I give to show that dragon ball fans could easily try the same wank arguments other fanbases do but don't feel the need to most of the time. I even go over in many videos why I don't agree with it and was mainly explaining that with a similar logic people apply to OPM, Dragon Ball would be a lot more insane as well. even me saying the dragon ball universe is infinite / endless is due to once again, people thinking these terms only apply to their utmost with OPM. Normally I wouldn't grant that terminology for either, and mainly was hammering it home like that as a rhetorical dunk rather than my actual opinion.

[smartfella]

Powerscalers when they realize neither Goku or Saitamas punches can create universes where their dad is in their lives

[jesmarkmikesell]

Goku is the journey to obtaining strength while Saitama is the journey of finding purpose in it.

[mikedanielespeja]

I think the thing that can be taken from this whole debate is that Saitama's feats look grander at first look simply because Murata's art is that good.

[RaulTheVoyager]

Wait, wasn't Saitama technically holding back since he promised the kid he'll bring him back?

[That_ne_Dev]

Imagine minding your own business then getting obliterated because some guy a million galaxies away decided to scream

[verysuperdave]

Murata’s sense of scale just makes Saitama’s his strength seem so real, whereas with Goku being able to destroy planets/galaxies etc may be canon but the art doesn’t go out of its way to give this sense of awe, and often relies on a character saying “wow! That attack will destroy the earth if it lands!” Obv this isn’t a power scaling issue but story-telling.

[ynosrage]

Seth is literally the most sane person out there when it comes to vs scaling/debating.

[tanoshi]

This leaves more questions than answered. Where does Peter Griffin Scale against Goku and Saitama?

[oeuf]

"Has Everything Changed?"
Yeah, people who call Saitama a gag character are lunatics now.

[allthingsend]

I wouldn't call Saitama bloodlusted. Because the term implies that there is an intention to kill. After the fight Garou asks why Saitama doesn't finish him off, and Saitama answers with something along the lines of Garou still being a human and the fact that he promised Tareo not to kill Garou. So even though Saitama was BIG MAD, I still don't think he even intended to kill Garou at anytime throughout the fight.

[Galamoth]

I just want to point out that the scale that shows Saitama's power compared to Garou's literally shows exponential growth, not linear. They're both gaining power exponentially, in fact. Saitama just happens to be increasing at a much faster rate.

[PontiusPontiac]

Personally the issue I have with a Saitama vs Goku scenario is that a death match between the two wouldn't align between their established characters, and in a spar, both would be holding back, Goku because he loves prodding a sleeping bear and Saitama because he's very passive in fighting. While yes Goku is very powerful, Saitama is also powerful, and his power increased because he started fighting someone that matched his power for a second and he still held back, until he quite literally punched so hard that he went back in time ^^' at the end of the day though, it wouldn't be within their established character to have a death match, Goku would just want to spar against a strong opponent for the fun of it and Saitama would passively play along till he remembers the supermarket having a sale today

[justinr.]

This Goku guy seems pretty strong, but can he beat goku tho?

[twigzm]

Giving Saitama an opponent he could actually fight his heart out with and get the excitement he wants is enough of a reason for him to grow stronger. I don't think Saitama needs to get angry.

[nottuhs]

The only reason you can’t necessarily compare these 2 without it being fair is because Dragon ball has pretty much lasted way longer and progressed it’s story to the utmost extreme when compared to Opm, thus leaving Dragonball enough room to power scale its own universe into oblivion

[gonzotown]

Murata seems to have as much freedom as he wants to have with the story. He's just smart enough to know to stick to the original story as much as he can.

[thegrandwombat]

The best part about Saitama is how clearly he demonstrates the limitations of traditional powerscaling systems. Feats based calculations are useful in many circumstances, but not the same thing as understanding a character's power, and cases like this one make that a lot easier to see.

[counterzero]

"Has Everything Changed?"
Him: "Yes."
Also him: *spends 20 minutes explaining how basically nothing has actually changed*

[seekinpeekin]

I like the fact that saitama is legitimately being held back from getting stronger by his verse 💀