The Sony FX6 Has INTERNAL RAW Now?!

Do you guys plan to use the RAW tab with your FX6 now? I think it's a neat feature, but kinda pointless without all the real benefits of actual 12-16bit RAW.

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0:00 Intro
0:29 What is RAW?
1:47 THE TEST and PROOF
6:30 Synopsis

[CLIFFLIX]

I really wish more channels would talk about "ISO" and "gain" together. It's +6db for every 1 stop of "ISO" that somebody adds. If a camera's base sensitivity is 800 ISO, nobody changes the "sensitivity" of the sensor when they bump the signal to 1600 ISO. All they did was take the base ISO at 800 and ADD +6db of "gain" to that waveform. Raw files only have "0db" A/D conversion. If its a two stage preamp, then there are two base ISO values...a "low" 0db and a "high" 0db. Your raw file is saved at either one of those 0db values.

It's impossible to truly understand "ISO" in a digital camera without understanding what "gain" is. (And gain is rarely discussed today)

[jimhestermanphotography]

The ability to change those settings in the raw tab is solely to change the exposure to the exact ISO you rated the shot for using Cine EI. for instance you can shoot at 800 and rate it for 400 and when you bring the clip into Davinci it allows you to change to 400 to match what you saw on the monitor. Not raw. Just pushing and pulling exposure like you would with film.

[CartyCantDance]

Routing your LOG footage through HDR wheels in resolve gives you RAW-like control over almost any camera. FLOG2 and VLOG especially feel so flexible when routed through HDR for exposure/WB/contrast adjustments

[ErrickJackson]

As far as I can tell, this seems to just be a metadata read that the Sony-focused raw tab can adjust off of. Functionally speaking, it's not dissimilar from the HDR Palette's color managed changes; it's just allowing you to use the linearized math on the standard raw settings. You still run up on the limits of lower bit-depth and pre-debayered footage. Kinda cool though I guess.

[ndb]

You use the Flexible ISO mode? Using a fixed ISO mode (EI mode) will not result in white clipping because the overall dynamic range from bright to dark remains consistent; only the 18% gray level varies up and down.

[JRidgely]

Even if not true raw it still gives creators a lot more control over their footage.

[Fprato]

Great Video! this is a great news for the da vinci users! the Sony a7s III has this upgrade too?

[pglazzari]

Excellent comparison! I always enjoy your videos. Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise.

[JSHFilms]

Cam! Great video! I enjoyed watching every bit of it to see if I would be needing this in the future and I agree with your outcomes :)

[AlecKinnear]

Exactly the tests that should be run on this fake "hidden raw". Do the existing tools work as well or better to modify the footage? Yes. Hence mucking about in the RAW tab is just complicating the workflow. It will probably lead to huge compatibility issues in the future, as the functionality is not documented or endorsed by either Sony or Blackmagic. I.e. using the RAW adjustments tab on non-RAW footage is simply making trouble for yourself.

Had the RAW tab offered better or more accurate renderings, or lower noise, or allowed bigger white balance shifts, using it would entail the same risks but at least there would be some reward.

[bearland]

ISO is not going to affect the exposure if cine ei mood is activated, although the lut can change the monitor’s exposure but the “raw” footage still remains the same

[TJIzzy]

Red footage just has that thickness to it, that only the Arri's also have.

[rodrigoDOP]

@cammackey as per my knowledge this is for if you record PRORES RAW from the Sony FX3/FX6/FX9 with Atomos V V+ then this works

[anthonyrock]

Marketing magic for sure but perhaps it’s a step towards a future actual raw release one day. It will get people practicing and learning a bit more about colour management and working with raw data.

[GlobalShutterNY]

I agree - this is 'fake' RAW - 10bit and in-camera processing/NR (which Sony does a great job with - honestly I rarely see the need for true RAW - I try not to screw up my exposures and WB that much!)

[randomgeocacher]

Hybrid Log curves performs an image compression before the compression stage. Around normal exposure it is kind of linear, around the top ands low it has more coverage and less fidelity. One way of thinking of it is that you have like 6 really good bits and 4 bits which are less good but covers much more distance, compared to linear. So for non-extreme cases, hybrid log should do great, but in edge cases linear with more bits blows it away. RED’s patent belongs in a garbage dumpster, not having invented linear raw but effectively having a patent preventing others from integrating it into a camera. If patents courts were sane, linear log alternatives to hybrid log would be possible to implement on cameras.

[CartyCantDance]

You’re using the DJI pocket 3 as a b cam??? It looks incredible, I really need one

[elarrioguajardo]

Thanks for the video!

What are your thoughts on Blackmagic Raw (BRAW)? It's a 12 Bit video codec if I recall, you've worked with it before so I'm curious what your workflow was like with it.


How about Cinema DNG (CDNG)? I believe it was in the original Blackmagic Pocket and some Ursas (ones with older software versions), but the Sigma FP has it and should be 14 Bit footage (From what I remember).


I'm just curious cause I own a Blackmagic Pocket 6k Pro and am thinking of getting a Sigma FP.

[timdanyo]

It would be interesting to see a FX6 ProRes RAW external vs Red RAW internal comparison.

[reelweaver]

best explaination! Also mixed with some nice refreshing information. Thank you so much! I know now, I won't use it. I never use The 12 Bit raw of my atomos due to its long worklfow and even more space with CNG Files in Davinci. Would make more sense if sony releases a raw codec that fits direktly into Davinci. Real RAW 12 Bit. No Questions. Panasonic does it. Many do.