Debating The Value Of Eastern Medicine (Ayurveda) | Healthy Gamer Dr. K

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00:00 Intro
01:30 Risks Of YouTube Medicine / Mental Health Stigma
27:25 Mindfulness and Enlightenment
32:30 Ayurvedic Medical Tests
54:45 The Weaknesses Of Ayurveda
01:11:10 Why Ayurveda Is So Popular
01:21:26 Why I Don’t Like Ayurveda
1:39:00 The Advantage of Ayurveda / Placebos
1:56:32 How Much Time Matters
2:07:26 How Do We Know “Thought” Exists?

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[HealthyGamerGG]

Super important convo 🙏 Thanks for having us on 💚

[xyztv_]

Treat this comment as a petition for Dr Mike and K to create a consistent podcast. The amount of scientific and medical knowledge and nuance transferred in a complex but also comprehensive way is frankly amazing. The fact that is readily available for anyone to listent to is certainly one of the greatest testaments to the power of the internet

[tulnekaya]

I think Dr. K's commentary on "time" is underappreciated. Mental illness destroyed YEARS of my life, interpersonal relationships, and delayed my education and career. And I had help and resources that people definitely don't.

[joystick]

The way Dr. K stopped the interview/debate to ask why Dr. Mike was so confrontational was very professional and kept the converstaion on track. Dr. Mike had walls and Dr. K dismantled them to keep an open mind, and keep the interview on the rails.

Class act from both, and good on Dr. Mike to recognize the bias.

[TheBillNye]

My favorite part was when Dr. K suplexed Dr. Mike through the table and then they hugged it out after. Incredible

[yajy]

Man, that got heated. When Dr. K got up and threw a chair, I thought it was over.

[Me_Caveman]

Why can't more of YouTube and conversations be like this.

[kellencrosby]

Dr. Mike stressing me out at the start here haha. Shout out Dr. K for his patience and bigger shout out to Dr. Mike for opening up once he noticed himself being closed, rather than getting more defensive. Truly big of him and I hope to emulate that in my life a long with Dr. Ks empathy and self awareness

[EZZYLAND]

imagine if our parents fought like this

[slamer]

Man, imagine a world where people knew how to discuss and debate their own viewpoints as well as LISTEN to others views, in a constructive, self honest way like this. I think so much of our social-cultural conflicts are because people don't know how to debate and listen.

[Blackberryfae]

As a woman, with ADHD, that has had to deal with medications not being as effective on my period because lab testing JUST DOES NOT account for my hormonal cycle, and finding out most human trials are done on men because female hormone cycles "mess up the results, " meaning that for half the population, medicine just wasn't made for us, this Ayurveda "person first, then lab" approach actually sounds like it could solve a LOT of the AFAB population's problems

[harsimratdhaliwal]

I absolutely loved this! I just finished medical school and am starting residency. There has been this massive disconnect between western medicine and eastern medicine in my culture. Growing up, we learned to meditate and how it can change our minds and the different ways to breathe. Then I came to medical school and was basically told that it's all rubbish. This conversation has been enlightening for me, in the sense that there can be a blend of both.

[aliabdaal]

Omg this is the crossover I didn’t know I needed - halfway through, incredible convo so far ❤❤

[TheMidnightGoose]

The two medical titans of Youtube clashing it out! This video is going to be wild.

[askeladd]

You can tell Dr. Mike's a boxer, because he was pushing Dr. K to the ropes. And Dr. K also has some mad ropa-dope. Dr. K also disarmed Dr. Mike quite well, regarding the clear bias towards the undertone of "I dislike snakeoil".

Quite frankly, one of the best debates I've ever seen. No. Not debates, because debates are full of tricks and manipulations to get the audience on your side. This is, pure and simple, outright philosophy and pursuit of truth.

The most beautiful conversation I've heard in many years. Most people simply fight to fight and to defend their position to the death.

The mutual seeking of truth is just....a pure delight, and it is especially warming to my much-in-need soul.

Gratitude to you both. Keep up the great work!

[Sally]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVED the turning point of how Dr. K noticed the unintended confrontational tension that was building up & didn't immediately assume negative things & go on to make probably wrong conclusions. Rather he got curious to actually understand the blockade in the communication was & he handled it so well that it turned out to be insightful to both of them, in that thay both got the opportunity to realise the underlying assumptions/cause of why they were struggling to connect❤that's real professional communication❤ & I love it!
I commend u both for handling it this way & sharing with us the benefit of your respective insights & expertise in both worldviews on medicine. Even if this was the only portion someone watched it would be a wonderful lesson to take on effective communication for life💖. Thanks

[rossjamesmusic]

I think the main problem of this podcast is one could conclude only watching this that Dr k is Ayurvedic-centric which is largely not the case (which of course he stated peripherally a few times), merely more open to Ayurvedic perspectives than most western doctors, including recognizing its strengths.

However, while Dr Mike’s exposure to Ayurvedic practices is likely influenced by those who are taking advantage of its lack of RCT and such and making bold statements with no evidence (the “woowoo” people, not Dr Mike), I think his expertise allows for a conversation with Dr K I’ve never seen before. This is a conversation that is unbelievably relevant to our time. I respect both Drs so much in their approach to medicine. Respect to those who can have differing perspectives and have an open conversation!

[joelworsham]

I absolutely love how there are times where a question is asked or an explanation is given, and the listener stops and pauses for some seconds, truly thinking critically, and then asking follow up. You both are brilliant, and I admire your curiosity and consideration in this incredibly healthy conversation where we all, including you both of course, can learn so much. Thanks!

[cheetah]

What I love about Dr.K is that he's so direct but respectful. I've learned so much about how to communicate better with people on my personal life by just watching him. I'm a very direct person but the way he phrases his statements and tone is one that I am stealing with integrity because it is so clear when one is prepared and understands their subject, it becomes so much easier to communicate simply and tailor communication to the audience.

[gmanley]

Finally got around to listening to this and was blown away at the tremendous collective effort to search for and thoughtfully posit truth as it pertains to health. Glad we've got the both of you fighting the good fight ♥