Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris | Lex Fridman Podcast #418

Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:

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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
4:42 - 1948
1:03:14 - Partition
2:07:47 - October 7
3:01:59 - Gaza
3:28:34 - Peace
4:33:18 - Hope for the future

SOCIAL:

[lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
4:42 - 1948
1:03:14 - Partition
2:07:47 - October 7
3:01:59 - Gaza
3:28:34 - Peace
4:33:18 - Hope for the future

[SilverStrum]

What an unfairly set up debate. How is Norm supposed to take on Mr. Bonnell, Mr. Burnelli, Mr. Morelli, AND Mr. Borelle at the same time?!?

[hamadinhoamr]

Norm: "What's your name?"
Destiny: "Steven Bonell"
Norm: "Mr Biryani, Brace yourself"

[rotoninja]

Two historians, a journalist and a video game streamer walk into a bar...

[cyruscheng]

Every time Mr. Finkelstein said his name:

(00:02:05) Mr. Borelli
(00:33:07) Mr. Bonnell
(02:00:00) Mr. Barelli
(02:18:05) Mr. Bonnell
(02:45:18) Mr. Borelli
(02:47:45) Mr. Morelli
(02:48:15) Mr. Borelli
(02:52:43) Mr. Bonnell
(03:01:14) Mr. Burelli
(03:10:44) Mr. Bonnell
(03:12:20) Mr. Borrell
(03:17:46) Mr. Berelli
(03:18:54) Mr. Farelli
(03:19:11) Mr. Berelli
(03:21:51) Mr. Berelli
(03:24:38) Mr. Bonnell
(04:19:27)Mr. Bonnell
(04:20:42)Mr. Bonnell
(04:21:33)Destiny
(04:22:19)Mr. Bonnell
(04:23:57) Mr. Borrell
(04:24:06) Mr. Birrell
(04:26:55) Mr. Bonnell
(04:41:18) Mr. Bonnell
(04:51:40) Mr. Birrell

[CockatooDude]

I'm glad that this was hosted in a 1970's airport interrogation room. Really adds to the international politics feel.

[davidiancrux]

I wish we had a cam of lex's reactions the whole way through

[mantistoboggan]

Man it's really shocking how towards the end the right side of the table were repeatedly saying that international law doesn't matter.

At the start of the debate they were very keen to explain that Israel's actions in Gaza are congruent with international law, but by the end they simply said "well international law doesn't matter who cares if collective punishment is a war crime"

It was a really insightful look at just how quickly they were willing to openly drop all concern about international law the second it didn't help their case

[LakshmiKc-ugjr]

How tf we have 0.5x, 0.75x 1.00x 1.25x and 1.5x speed in the same debate

[acinnamonroll-fnee]

Destiny: *utters a single word*
Norman: Mr. Raviolli brace yourself

[isadam]

The fact that I did not hear of Mouin Rabbani till watching this debate is sinfully insane! What a brilliant, agile mind with great patience!

[neomcdoom]

There should be a debate tactic called “Borelli’s Machine” where you drive someone insane by playing with an iPad while they are talking to you

[uwuu]

Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst and Destiny is a girls name.

[TheMitcher]

Norm: "What is your name please?"
Destiny: "Steven Bonnell"
Norm: "Okay thank you Mr Burnout 3 Takedown for the PlayStation 2"

[NowWeAreAllGames]

Mr. Resetti and Norm need to have a show together

[Marshmellow]

Norm Finkelstein: ‘What is your name, please?’
Destiny: ‘Steven Bonnell’
Norm: ‘Ok, thank you Mr. Burnelli’

[chrisgarciahostof-isitjust]

"With all due respect, you're such* a fantastic moron."

😂 that one caught me off guard.

[underaaa]

holy! 5 hours? this can be a series. Season one.

[rakovsky]

1 hr 37 min. in, Fridman says, "On that note of agreement, let's wrap up and move on to modern times."
30 minutes later...
Modern section begins.

[brendan]

Mr. Bonnell x17
Mr. Barelli x1
Mr. Borelli x2
Mr. Morelli x1
Mr. Berelli x4
Mr. Borrell x2
in case you were wondering