HD| Is the Trinity Coherent? | Mohammed Hijab vs Dr. William Lane Craig

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This is the text: You say that Muslim theologians don’t disagree about the who-ness of God well of course it’s true that Islam is a monotheistic religion and in the same way Christians agree on trinitarianism but the amount of disagreement about the nature of God and his attributes and so forth is just as diverse in Islam and Christianity as for the Holy Spirit you don’t need to wait until the fourth century for him to be granted full Divine status that occurs in the new Testament itself as I’ve already stated. Now with respect to the three wills I think that this follows from divine perfection you have three perfect persons who are equal in goodness omnipotence and omniscience and therefore it’s perfectly plausible that they would always agree and would not come into disharmony with each other so this is a Christian postulate that I think is perfectly reasonable.

Is The Trinity Logically Coherent? Debate

Mohammed Hijab is a debater and public speaker who engages in discussions and polemics on a wide variety of topics including religion, politics and society.

Dr. William Lane Craig is a Christian philosopher and apologist known for his debates on the existence of God and the truth of Christianity. He has authored numerous books and articles on these topics.

0:00:00 Introducing Dr William Lane Craig
0:01:12 Introducing Mohammed Hijab
0:01:39 Introducing topic, and format of the debate
0:02:09 Dr WLC's opening statement/remarks
0:06:09 MH's opening statement/remarks
0:09:29 Dr WLC's first response
0:11:54 MH's first response
0:14:19 Dr WLC's second response
0:16:25 MH's second response
0:18:49 Dr WLC's third response
0:20:55 MH's third response
0:24:00 Dr WLC's fourth response
0:26:01 MH's fourth response
0:27:40 Dr WLC's fifth response
0:28:51 MH's fifth response
0:30:15 Dr WLC's sixth response
0:31:56 MH's sixth response
0:33:08 Dr WLC's seventh response
0:35:28 MH's seventh response
0:38:04 Dr WLC's eighth response
0:39:13 MH's eighth response
0:40:29 Dr WLC's ninth response
0:41:06 MH's ninth response
0:43:14 Dr WLC's tenth response
0:44:19 MH's tenth response
0:46:26 Dr WLC's eleventh response
0:47:30 MH's eleventh response
0:49:57 Dr WLC's twelfth response
0:51:26 MH's twelfth response
0:53:17 Dr WLC's closing statement
0:56:10 MH's closing statement
0:59:15 Dr WLC's final comment on MH's views
1:00:04 MH's final comment on Dr WLC's views
1:01:15 Thanking the two debaters

#christian #muslim #trinity

[MohammedHijab]

This is the text: You say that Muslim theologians don’t disagree about the who-ness of God well of course it’s true that Islam is a monotheistic religion and in the same way Christians agree on trinitarianism but the amount of disagreement about the nature of God and his attributes and so forth is just as diverse in Islam and Christianity as for the Holy Spirit you don’t need to wait until the fourth century for him to be granted full Divine status that occurs in the new Testament itself as I’ve already stated. Now with respect to the three wills I think that this follows from divine perfection you have three perfect persons who are equal in goodness omnipotence and omniscience and therefore it’s perfectly plausible that they would always agree and would not come into disharmony with each other so this is a Christian postulate that I think is perfectly reasonable.

[aliisthetic]

im surprised he had the audacity to say that touheed is more confusing and complex then trinity get this man some help

[smiletojannah]

William Lane Craig lost even before he compared God to a 3 headed dog 😂😂😂

[alcazar]

I used to be a Christian. I struggled for decades to understand the Trinity. No one could even begin to explain it to me in a way that made logical sense.

When I started studying Islam, it took me 3 seconds to understand Tawhid.

Case closed.

[ZoroClutchTDM]

Did he just say Tawhid is complex and hard to understand? Bro 😂

[HolyMonotony]

In regards to the Dr.s closing statement: I was born into a Muslim family, and stopped identifying as a Muslim or practicing for a few decades. I was fully agnostic and dabbling in spirituality, deeply seeking to know God or to understand God it to feel peace in my being. I am so grateful to have that perspective now, after returning with fresh eyes like a child. Learning to pray, learning the Quran, learning the seera of the prophet. I thank god everyday for my return to Islam.

[mfahadfayt]

'Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish' ~ Qur'an

[shadazmi]

لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا اللَّٰهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ اللَّٰهِ

[MWA]

I left Christianity due to this very reason.

[petermckenzie]

I am very grateful for this - it highlights how logical & correct Islam is. Islam is the greatest gift mankind has.

[r.rahman]

*Is the Trinity Coherent? | Mohammed Hijab vs Dr. William Lane Craig*

0:00:30 Introducing Dr William Lane Craig
0:01:12 Introducing Mohammed Hijab
0:01:39 Introducing topic, and format of the debate

_The debate_
0:02:09 Dr WLC's opening statement/remarks
0:06:09 MH's opening statement/remarks
0:09:29 Dr WLC's first response
0:11:54 MH's first response
0:14:19 Dr WLC's second response
0:16:25 MH's second response
0:18:49 Dr WLC's third response
0:20:55 MH's third response
0:24:00 Dr WLC's fourth response
0:26:01 MH's fourth response
0:27:40 Dr WLC's fifth response
0:28:51 MH's fifth response
0:30:15 Dr WLC's sixth response
0:31:56 MH's sixth response
0:33:08 Dr WLC's seventh response
0:35:28 MH's seventh response
0:38:04 Dr WLC's eighth response
0:39:13 MH's eighth response
0:40:29 Dr WLC's ninth response
0:41:06 MH's ninth response
0:43:14 Dr WLC's tenth response
0:44:19 MH's tenth response
0:46:26 Dr WLC's eleventh response
0:47:30 MH's eleventh response
0:49:57 Dr WLC's twelfth response
0:51:26 MH's twelfth response
0:53:17 Dr WLC's closing statement
0:56:10 MH's closing statement

0:59:15 Dr WLC's final comment on MH's views
1:00:04 MH's final comment on Dr WLC's views
1:01:15 Thanking the two debaters

[PHX-]

Great debate.
William Lane Craig is very respectful and well mannered.
May Allah guide him.

[robertpetkes]

Amazing debate!! Once again, Islam proves to be the truth without having to do mental gymnastics.

Alhamdulillah, after being atheist for 10 years Allah guided me towards the right path.
I hope He will guide the rest of those who are ready to find the truth and the right path. In Shaa Allah!

[imran.abbasi]

Christians + Apus are now going to join forces to lick their wounds and feel better about themselves 😂

[Urdupinnacle]

For the past 2 years im listening to This kind of debates
But i never found any 2 Christians who believe in the same way ...
Everyone has its own definition and understanding

[vaccino]

Dr. Craig is a respectable man, but his arguments for the Trinity, especially the candle analogy part failed miserably just as brother Mohammad said.


Edit: I just learned that this guy justifies genocide and mass murder, including the content in the Bible and genocides like Israel vs children. I take this statement back.

[Harisfzal]

If he couldn't defend trinity then yeah it should be a done deal now

[FatimaBarkatulla]

Excellent. How can a man 2000 years later claim to understand the trinity better than centuries of Christian scholars? Truth is that the trinity was a later creation, never part of the early Christian theology.

[darwinsantos]

as prophet Yusuf says in the Quran “O my fellow-prisoners! Which is far better: many different lords or God —the One, the Supreme? Whatever ˹idols˺ you worship instead of Him are mere names which you and your forefathers have made up—a practice Allah has never authorized. It is only Allah Who decides. He has commanded that you worship none but Him. That is the upright faith, but most people do not know “ …this really applies to the Christian’s, the trinity is a man made concept that God never authorized

[leon]

In response to Dr LC’s closing statement… I was raised believing in God but having a Muslim father and Christian mother and therefore Christian and Muslim family members. What I’ve found is that most of my Christian family have became increasingly less aligned with Christianity and more aligned with atheism or agnosticism. However all of my Muslim family have remained Muslim. This doesn’t prove anything but this along with other factors does show the strength and continuation of the Islamic belief within my family tree. I have became Muslim in recent years after learning lots of different facts about both religions and comparing them. I found that so many aspects of the Christian theology has contradictions (especially the trinity) and there is a clear failure of preservation of the bible.
In Islam everything made sense to me and answered all my questions that I had before about God and religion. I have also found that not a single Christian is sure of their faith and they simply have nothing but faith to rely on, whereas Muslims have both faith and logic/reasoning. I have also found that Muslims r more confident in debates as a result of how confident they r that their faith is true.
I even heard Christian’s (that I’ve debated with and those who I’ve seen in interviews) admitting to having “blind faith” in Christianity but believing cause they ‘have had experiences or visions or feelings that Christianity is true. I’m convinced that my mother will eventually accept Islam as she is struggling to refute my points and she herself can’t grasp the trinity but believes that Jesus is the son of God and that the actual God is the father and that the Holy Spirit also exists but she doesn’t understand the actual Christian belief that the trinity is co-equal and she doesn’t believe to at Jesus is God. Even most of my friends that were raised Christian have became more agnostic due to the contradictions in Christianity but they aren’t really interested enough about religion and God to learn about and explore Islam.
I also believe that because I wasn’t brought up Muslim and became Muslim due to reasoning between religions, I am more confident that it’s the truth.