5 Locomotives That Are Extinct | History in the Dark

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Scrapping comes from many locomotive types. Some a lucky enough to see preservation. But many, even famous ones, are rendered extinct in the end without a single remnant that they once ran the rails.

0:00 - Intro
1:14 - New York Central Hudson
5:14 - Louisville and Nashville class M-1
7:06 - New York Central Niagara
10:38 - Pennsylvania Railroad class T1
13:54 - BR Standard Class 6

"A New York Central Hudson was a popular 4-6-4 "Hudson" type steam locomotive built by the American Locomotive Company (ALCO) and the Lima Locomotive Works in three series from 1927 to 1938 for the New York Central Railroad. Named after the Hudson River, the 4-6-4 wheel arrangement came to be known as the "Hudson" type in the United States, as these locomotives were the first examples built and used in North America. Built for high-speed passenger train work, the Hudson locomotives were famously known for hauling the New York Central's crack passenger trains, such as the 20th Century Limited and the Empire State Express. With the onset of diesel locomotives by the mid-20th Century, all Hudson locomotives were retired and subsequently scrapped by 1957, with none preserved today except for a converted tender from J-1d 5313, which is preserved at the Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton, Pennsylvania."

"The Louisville and Nashville M-1 was a class of forty-two 2-8-4 steam locomotives built during and after World War II as dual-service locomotives. They were nicknamed "Big Emmas" by crews and were built in three batches between 1942 and 1949."

"The New York Central Railroad's Niagara was a 4-8-4 "Northern" type steam locomotive named after the Niagara River and Falls. It had a 4-8-4 wheel arrangement and is considered as one of the most efficient 4-8-4 locomotives ever built."

"The Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) class T1 duplex-drive 4-4-4-4 steam locomotives, introduced in 1942 with two prototypes and later in 1945-1946 with 50 production examples, were the last steam locomotives built for the PRR and arguably its most controversial. They were ambitious, technologically sophisticated, powerful, fast and distinctively streamlined by Raymond Loewy. However, they were also prone to wheelslip both when starting and at speed, in addition to being complicated to maintain and expensive to run. The PRR decided in 1948 to place diesel locomotives on all express passenger trains, leaving unanswered questions as to whether the T1's flaws were solvable, especially taking into account that the two prototypes did not have the problems inherent to the production units."

"The Standard class 6, otherwise known as the Clan Class, was a class of 4-6-2 Pacific tender steam locomotive designed by Robert Riddles for use by British Railways. Ten locomotives were constructed between 1951 and 1952, with a further 15 planned for construction. However, due to acute steel shortages in Britain, the order was continually postponed until it was finally cancelled on the publication of the 1955 Modernisation Plan for the re-equipment of British Railways. All of the original locomotives were scrapped, but a replica is being built."

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It's really sad how these glorious Iron Horses met their tragic end, but hearing that the T1 and the Class 6 have groups dedicated to rebuilding them gives hope for some of the others.

Railman
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Honorable mention, the entire New Haven steam and electric fleet

riderstrano
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Already two new york centrals on the list, i mean how can u not talk about the hudsons and Niagaras. They are iconic

buecomet
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YES he's talking about the Louisville & Nashville Big Emmas. I absolutely love those 2-8-4s

tylergreen
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Milwaukee Road 261 runs with a tender from an L&N Big Emma. It was converted to an auxiliary water tender by either the N&W or NS for their Steam Program but sold to North Star Rail, later The Friends of the 261 and now Railroading Heritage of Midwest America around 1995 in an auction when NS ended to old steam program.

MachRacer
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Glad to see 4-8-4 got its well deserved spot light

joelchristensen
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3d printed cast molds exist now. It would be interesting to see how such technology could be used to restore things such as steam shovels.

jmd
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Imagine Alfred E Perlman as Head of BR's Modernisation Plan... 😂🤣 What a crossover!

phil
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This prompts a more obscure series suggestion - Locomotives that were extinct but aren't any more. (ie LNER Peppercorn A1)

neilharbott
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The Hudson was literally the first engine I thought of and as soon as the video starts it's the first engine I see. Yes this video makes people cry. Keep up the good work history in the dark!

railmastergaming
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The humor in this episode was GREAT! LOVED IT! Please do more!!

robgobbler
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2:49-3:38 This is a true masterpiece, bravo!

florjanbrudar
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Absolute BANGER! 😂💜 I'm already writing a post on the T1 with a link to your video & the T1 Trust site. Ngl, that engine's looks reminds me of my grandma's vacuum cleaner which scared the @#%?! out of me as a kid, ...but...but...I think I'm ready to face that fear

SweetSunrising
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The T-1's were styled by Raymond Loewy. When the Pennsy received their first order of Baldwin DR-4-4-1500's (diesels), the management complained about the rather homely looks of Baldwin's "covered wagons". Baldwin got permission to apply Raymond Loewy's "shark nose" styling, and remedied the looks of the rest of the covered wagons that were shipped to the Pennsylvania Railroad. In true irony, the New York Central also received the same locomotives from Baldwin 😎

brentboswell
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I do hope that someone brings back the "New York Central Hudson" locomotive.

andrewchapman
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I just noticed the engine of the workers for the new york guy with the chainsaw is a southern pacific ac-8

Iliketrains
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Thank you for mentioning the L&N M1 "Big Emma" Class which is my favorite steam locomotive ever built!

I've heard an interesting story regarding the M1s with The Louisville & Nashville Railroad attempting to donate L&N 1984 to The Kentucky Railway Museum with KRM also having an offer by The Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad to preserve a C&O K4 "Kanawha" being C&O 2716 with KRM deciding to preserve C&O 2716 between the two with L&N scrapping 1984. C&O 2716 would see service in The Southern Railway Steam Program which took place between 1966-1982 when Norfolk Southern was formed with NS continuing this program until 1994 when it was shut down due to it being too expensive to keep operating. C&O 2716 was retired from the C&O in 1956 being sold to The Kentucky Railway Museum in 1959 it would stay there on static display until 1979 when it was to be leased by The Clinchfield Railroad for their Steam Program but due to the Family Lines System merger and C&O 2716 being taken apart for an overhaul at the time it would be cancelled before it even started. C&O 2716 would get a second chance for excursion service in 1980 with it being leased to The Southern Railway being overhauled by The Southern Railway at their Irondale, Alabama Shops being used in the program between 1980 to July of 1982 when it was taken out of service due to SOU 2716 developing a large crack in it's Firebox it would sit in storage at Irondale until 1985 when it was retired by The Southern Railway from the Steam Program. C&O 2716 would be leased to The Fort Wayne Railroad & Historical Society running excursions for the FWR&HS between Logansport, Indiana to Gilman, Illinois from 1994-1996 when the FRA ordered the FWR&HS to either give C&O 2716 new flues or decide on a complete overhaul of C&O 2716 or NKP 765 with NKP 765 getting the overhaul due to it being in better shape. C&O 2716 would be returned to The Kentucky Railway Museum sitting on static display between 1997-2019 when C&O 2716 was moved to Ravenna, Kentucky to be overhauled to Operational Condition with Kentucky Steam signing a Long-Term Lease agreement with KRM in February of 2016. C&O 2716 as of December of 2022 is still at Kentucky Steam's Shop at Ravenna, Kentucky being overhauled to fully operational condition.

If you could discuss this in a video I would really appreciate it! Thanks and have a great day

lnproductions
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I've actually spoken to a member of the T1 trust and they're definitely improving the 5550. She's going to burn cooking oil so she can travel NATIONWIDE

ChargerusPrime
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Honestly, the NYC Niagara are my most favorite type of extinct steam engine.

ThreeRiversfan
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The B&O EM1 version of the 2884. The saga of the almost preserved 659 is a video unto itself.

dannylittle