Hardstyle Swing Is The WORST (ACCORDING TO WORLD CHAMPION)

In today's video, we explore an intriguing difference of opinion between two renowned experts in the field: Kettlebell World Champion Ivan Denisov and legendary strength coach Pavel Tsatsouline.

Ivan Denisov, a dominant force in the kettlebell sport, has garnered numerous accolades and shattered records throughout his career. Known for his exceptional technique and incredible power, Denisov has developed his own unique approach to kettlebell training, diverging from the teachings of Pavel Tsatsouline, a widely respected authority in the field.

Denisov challenges Tsatsouline's perspective on the kettlebell hardstyle swing, a foundational exercise in kettlebell training. While Tsatsouline advocates for a more rigid and explosive swing, emphasizing tension and a powerful hip snap, Denisov believes in a more fluid and relaxed technique, emphasizing the rhythmic flow and minimizing tension.

Whether you're a beginner or an experienced kettlebell enthusiast, this video is bound to challenge your existing beliefs and expand your understanding of the kettlebell hardstyle swing.

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[MarkJYule]

Always good to hear others views, I came to KBs with a wrecked back (l4/5, S5/1 blown) - and Pavels training got me back moving with much less pain. My physio said she had never seen anyone with such strong hamstrings - my belief to this day is that swings and snatches keep my hammies strong AND long and allow my pelvis to sit "right"... which gives my spine less chance of nipping a nerve due to the compromised disc spaces.

His moves are very like Valery Federenko - think he's his coach? He's a legend and obviously can't be ignored.

I protect my back by keeping weights under 32kg and concentrate on form all the time. He's 100% right - if you do lose focus you can hurt yourself - but that's just as true with every barbell exercise 🤷‍♂️

Have a great weekend everyone 🤗

[iggs]

Thank you Lebe, I'm using a lot of your suggestions in my kb routines. Ivan is a legend of kb sport, but his focus is only on sport. In my opinion everyone should do both and know the difference.

[vojtechkubicek]

Hardstyle kettlebel work helped me improve my posture, my back isn't hurting anymore and I'm in my best condition soo far. So my n=1 experience is very positive with Hardstyle and SF

[GreysonCalem]

I suffered from back problems for a long time. (L4/L5 Disc herniation) I'm young so I kinda ignored it for a long time and kept doing all my usual activities while ignoring the pain.

Now that I'm primarily full-time KB, I'm convinced that hard-style swings really helped my back. I focus on form always and consider myself athletic, but I could see how heavy swings to someone with less experience could cause back pain or tweaks.

My guess is that strengthening the glutes and lengthening the hamstrings are really what alleviated most of my problems.

What I love about kettlebells is that I really don't care what weight I'm using. Instead, I just focus on volume. 24kg always delivers a kick-ass workout.

I've never felt better :)

Thanks for the great content!

[Jenjak]

I tweaked my back recently after a few years of KB practice, I don’t know exactly how and when, but it’s taking a while to recover.Honestly I’m starting to consider doing less hard style and more sport style in the future.

[davidhirst]

Dan (the man) John say that theres no real benefit of heavy swings (above 32kg). I feel he's right because the exercise isn't about muscle building rather it's a full body ballistic workout for general strength and fitness. I do it with 24kg and that seems perfect. Even 16kg is good. But beyond 32kg the risk to benefit ratio is too high. Also the swings then become more sloppy therefore less ballistic, thus defeating the entire purpose of the exercise.

[fallingleaveskungfu]

It's a matter of what outcome are you looking for. The Russian swing is more biomechanically efficient, which makes sense when you're training for 10 minute snatch set, however that also means you're not getting the same level of stimulus for improvements in strength and conditioning.

[pietromasuri]

The hard style uses always fast muscle fibers even with a light kettlebell. Kettlebell sport is the right way to compete for various minutes, by the coordination of endurance fibers.
Among the kettlebell sport athletes, there are different styles. The one of Denisov is not the better for the spine safety of a lightweight athlete because of the lateral pendulum.
Anasenko's technic allows a safer way to snatch. I can use easily Denisov technic until 28 kg kettlebell snatch. To snatch 32 kg I can use Denisov's movements but my back feels better by not using lateral pendulum.
61 kg bodyweight, 56 years old.

[christofrygol]

Well explained 👍🏿 I'm with you. Thank you and greetings 👊🏿

[greyanaroth]

Thanks for this! I have sciatica and was not the fittest when I started swings. I immediately hurt myself initially and have since then have been extremely careful and 100% focussed when doing swings (as Pavel recommends) and stop when focus fails.

[maderastuff]

Man i love the way you think and explain. That Pyramid idea is fantastic applied beyond athletics. Subbed. Keep up the great work appreciate you. Also the fitness is good too. Great channel.

[ProKettlebellWorkouts]

I've spoken with Ivan, and he's a very smart guy and is able to articulate very well the reasons behind his methods. What's more amazing is that he articulates in English as a native Russian speaker. I always felt Pavel was more marketing than actual substance.

[leikind]

please add a link to the original video

[IvanDenisovKettlebellClub]

Few moments about your video.
1st I make power without hip pushing (you showed incorrest). Im understand that you didnt see difference, but difference is big.
2nd You showed pendulum incorrect too(((
3 rd main option of my technique is waiting kb flight.
Try to lift hundreds of swings and you understand what im talking about.
But thanks for promout my videos))))

[yosefco]

I'm still at the bottom of the pyramid, but based on my experience, he is right! I used to have back pains with hard style swings, even with just 20-30 repetitions. However, today I can do hundreds of sport-style swings without any problem! It's a little more complicated and takes more time to learn the sport style, but it's absolutely worth it.
The movements in KB sport are more harmonious with the body; it teaches you to use your entire body wisely as one unit. The only disadvantage I see in KB sport is that they focus on very few movements. However, I believe that KB sport should be the starting point for learning how to move with KB wisely and efficiently.

[solidsnake]

I think everyone complaining about injuries in the comments need to consult with a doctor before continuing to train. Otherwise stick to walking.

[mytapoiss]

Hi, could you please share the Ivans masterclass video you mention in the beginning of the video.

[conduit]

I’m sorry but KB sport movements were made to maximize rep counts for time at a defined weight, not the work done which corresponds to the actual exercise benefit

[toddcannon]

Can't seem to find the video you refer to, have a link?

[gnostie]

Could someone please link Denisov’s original video? On the whole, in Denisov vs Tsatsouline, I’d listen to Denisov any day of the week. Pavel is alright, a smart businessman and an all-rounder. Denisov is a master of his subject.