Tim Palmer and Charles Godfray in conversation: “Modelling climate change: predicting the future”

Join Professor Tim Palmer, Royal Society 2010 Anniversary Research Professor, and Professor Sir Charles Godfray, Director of the Oxford Martin School, as they discuss how Modelling Climate Change can inform decisions made by scientists, policy makers & business managers.

But how robust are the predictions and logistically how can this information be shared?

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30:28 Tim Palmer is wrong also here: 4 degree Celsius warming until 2100 is not possible. All models run way too hot and all IPCC models are way too sensitive. Palmer says we do not need better models. Of course we need better models and most important, the IPCC should start to check the models against real satellite and weather balloon measurements. We need not only better and proven models but also better and more honest climate scientists who do more empirical work. Instead of exascale computing the climate science needs more reliable data from a grid of worldwide weather balloon stations and satellites.

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21:33 The Manabe Test. The supposed tropical hotspot and lower stratospheric cooling. Professor John Christy, from the University of Alabama, USA (UAH), arguably the most renowned atmospheric physicist worldwide, who builds up for 40 years the satellite and weather balloon data sets, showed convincingly that all the models of the IPCC reports AR5 and AR6 failed to show the hot spot in the lower troposphere and the cooling of the lower stratosphere is much weaker than predicted by all the models. Tim Palmer seems to be wrong, and all the models are falsified. Professor Palmer should at least mention these Satellite and Balloon Temperature measurements.