The Most Compelling Pro Choice Argument on TIKTOK?

Mr. B gives four reasons why the analogy between pregnancy and a car accident does not work.

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[adamska]

So I asked my dad like you suggested, and it was weird. He just looked at me like I'm stupid and said that a 38 year-old with a child should already know this.

[e_sd]

not going to lie her analogy made it sound like it was pro life because if you cause an accident and kill someone its your fault

[weshallneversurrender]

"Two people have sex and an accident happens".... I cannot believe we're at the point where human beings speak like this.

[williamzebub]

She used an awful lot of words to cover up that she doesn't value the life of another human being.

[jamielthashepherd]

An accident is random and usually unavoidable. Two people making a conscious decision to have unprotected sex knowing they could get pregnant IS NOT AN ACCIDENT. It’s a gamble

[glennjohnson]

Saying that pregnancy is the accident of sex is basically the same as saying reaching your destination is an accident of driving a car .

[houstonsam]

I would suggest another difference - the kidney donor loses the kidney permanently; the mother is only pregnant temporarily and does not lose the uterus at all.

[VolvoGonzo]

Her analogy broke down when she called them both accidents. One is the natural result of biology the other the unnatural result of driving. The only place the analogy works is that they're both negligent, which is never an excuse

[alexharmonymusic]

This analogy fails in so many categories:

1. The person injured in the car accident is the second party in the accident. A baby conceived on accident through sex is a third party.
2. The car crash is the accident, leading to the potential death of the second party. The baby conceived is the accident itself, leading to potential birth of a third party. The second party is completely ignored for the remainder of the scenario on the side of abortion.
3. "A life is at stake." This would always be true for the person requiring a kidney transplant to live. However, a women who is pregnant is not always in a life-risking scenario. Many women have gone through multiple pregnancies, and never had their lives at risk. Their livelihoods are always affected, but a change in livelihood is not what's compared in this analogy.
4. The active choice in the first scenario is to donate your kidney; if you do nothing, the person needing the transplant can potentially die. The active choice in the second scenario is abortion; if you do nothing, the child will continue to grow in the womb until it is birthed.
5. Donating a kidney is not equivalent to carrying a child in the womb. A kidney transplant would require you to lose your kidney for good in every scenario you accept. Women do not naturally lose their uterus after carrying (then delivering) a child. You can only give one kidney for a transplant in your lifetime; women can go through several pregnancies throughout their lifetimes (and not have to necessarily sacrifice any parts of their body permanently).
6. Refusing to give your kidney in the first scenario may not lead to the injured person's death; someone else may be able to donate instead. Refusing to carry the pregnancy will always lead to the death of the child; no one else can just take your pregnancy (they can adopt, but you have to birth it yourself first. No one else can birth that child for you).
7. Should you refuse to provide the kidney, and the person dies, then you would be put on trial for vehicular manslaughter because your reckless driving directly resulted in their fatal injuries from the car crash...Do you really want to compare this with the second scenario?

I fail to see how this analogy works at all; the two scenarios are simply too different to be comparable.

[joelkoning]

The debate will never end. Some people want zero accountability and are willing to kill for it.

[Jill-jbjg]

Two other differences I can see between the two situations described:

- A life isn’t put at risk by sex unintentionally leading to pregnancy. A new life is created.
- If you donate a kidney you don’t get it back again. You are permanently deprived of one kidney. But an unborn baby is only using its mother’s uterus temporarily.

[bamabrad]

Take responsibility for your actions- PERIOD

[zantas-handle]

*Her argument is PRO-LIFE! Imagine this exchange:*

_'Hey, I had a car accident and the guy I hit needs a kidney. I'm a match, so they're trying to force me to donate'_
Oh, so what will you do - donate or refuse?
_'Nah, I'll just have him dismembered and killed'_

[huckleberry]

I like how she glosses over "life starts at 24 weeks" like she's presented irrefutable evidence.

[TheGreatGonzales]

It’s still not a compelling arguement because it’s not an accident. The only way you can relate the two senarios is if you *CHOOSE* to run them and take your chances! In that case you’re guilty.

[RobinMcBeth]

How is that a pro-abortion argument? She couldn't possibly be that morally broken?!

[andrewgilbertson]

'An accident occurs: pregnancy.'

Well, there's your problem. A complete lack of understanding of how human reproduction works and what the function of sex is.

Pregnancy can be unintended... but it's not an accident, it's sex literally fulfilling its biological function.

[haachamachama]

lol, I didn't realize at first that she was arguing that you shouldn't be forced to give a kidney to the person you HIT with your car. When I heard it I was like, "Yeah, you caused the accident that for some reason left this person without a kidney, sure, it seems reasonable to force you to give up yours(in this hypothetical, not saying forced organ transplants should be a thing lol)

Also kinda hilarious that she even thinks getting pregnant(well, you're already pregnant, taking that baby to term) is equivalent to giving up a kidney... As in, losing a kidney for your whole life?? This is the definition of a false equivalence!

[richytube]

Having a baby is not an accident, it's a blessing.
Having sex with someone you don't intend to have children with is a train wreck.

[janeymonster]

Beyond the kidney transplant story... At least in most of the US, you HAVE to drive to live. You need groceries/food, healthcare, work to pay your rent/mortgage. Alternately, you don't HAVE to have unprotected sex with someone, risking an unwanted pregnancy 💁‍♀️