Could US 7th Fleet Strike Chinese Navy In Shanghai harbor? (WarGames 181) | DCS

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We've previously run several war games where the PLAN strikes US bases and harbors, now we do the reverse and simulate the US 7th Fleet with her F-35 and Super Hornet jets striking PLAN ships in Shanghai ports. Will they be able to penetrate? the strike starts with over 200 ADM-160B MALD decoys being fired, followed by 72 AGM-158C LRASM anti-shipping missiles.

0:00 Overview
1:29 Scenario Overview
2:31 Unit Overview
4:21 Unit Details
9:53 Predictions
10:39 Battle

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My biggest complaint about these series of videos is about the way attacks are undertaken. No Navy or Air Force would every launch their aircraft in such a piecemeal fashion. The long accepted strategy has been to have aircraft take off and form up over the carrier before attacking as a single wave, or in groups from different directions. You guys actually did something like this when you recreated The Dance of Vampires. The defenders might send their planes out one or two at a time if it's a surprise attack. But when you have a carrier vs carrier battle and both sides are expecting a fight they would launch all planes first out of range then move in as a group.
I understand this might not be possible yet with DCS and the AI available but I figured I would give some import.

Keep up the amazing work!

blueskiestrevor
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for anyone wondering. 0.05 m2 is slightly less then the size of A4 paper, or Letter size in the US. 0.002 m2 is that same paper folded in half 5 times.
just to give you some idea of how much the stealth can disguise a jet plane.

larswilms
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Hard to imagine the US only sends one carrier. Heck, we've got two near Israel at the moment.

mrgoober
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Cap, you NEED to limit the number of respawns a human has in these wars, otherwise the 'science' of the attack is completely disrupted by Dark (as an example) wiping out LRSMs, getting wasted then repeatedly respawning with full fuel and ammo, something no one else can do. I understand the need to keep it interesting or players won't turn up, but a cap of 3 (5?) lives will help keep balance plus encourage pilots to stay alive.

exidy-yt
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This is asking a lot... but i would LOVE to see a new series from you guys. an entire war game in the pacific! each video is an battle like this, that affects the future battles! that would be really cool!

tholdaranvilfury
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Just found your channel last night, been binging these war game eps, fascinating stuff! The simulation aspect is amazing to see, subbed!

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I feel very valued after watching these

pgcb
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What would be great to include is Chinese land-based anti-ship missiles which are a crucial part of Chinese naval deterence like the DF-17 hypersonic glide vehicles, DF-23 ballistic missiles and maybe older subsonic ones too.

deathdrone
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Shanghai was my favourite city when i visited China in 2007. Lovely and warm but with a nice sea breeze

dfgdfg_
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Chinese anti-carrier weapons not taken into count:
Land-based: DF-21, DF-26
Air-based: H6K + YJ-18, J16, J10
Sea-based: Carrier Task Group + J15, 055 + YJ-21, 052D + YJ-18, 093B Nuclear Sub + YJ-18, 039B AIP Sub

junma
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I’d love to see a futuristic US Navy Arsenal Ship strike to see what would’ve happened if they hadn’t cancelled it. They would be made up if a squadron of 2, and would be stealthy and hard to detect over the horizon. Each ship would carry about 500 missiles, so 1000 between the 2, made up of some sams as well as various attack missiles, like lrasm and probably some futuristic american hypersonic attack missiles. Maybe the type 055 would finally have some competition. Let me know if you see this or think it’s possible!

Ishawn.Ramaaj
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Easily one of my favorite GR vids in a while. Loved it and the new updates seemed to make quite the difference in some aspects.

-Ripcord-
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Love the wargames Cap et al. Hope CH is working on a DDG(X) Model for the even more futuristic naval battles.

RazgrizRed
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All the Chinese sailors were at an all you can eat Chinese buffet and couldn't make it back to the ships in time. Everyone loves a good Chinese buffet.

ArchAngel-FJB
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Watched all the way through! Loved this one! Thank you all for these awesome videos!

onetime
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I wish DCS would have a naval war update, also those tracers look soo good and way more entertaining

planetsec
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I love your channel so much my dear British Friend. Love from France <3

alexis
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Also, AIM-260 is a hypothetical weapons system at least a few years away from ioc. PL-15 has been in service since 2016 and is now fielded in large numbers.

The US missile should have been AIM-120D-3

appa
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It might be long, but it's super cool! Of course we are watching all of it!

cuz
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I think it would be far more realistic to spawn the attacking aircraft in already flying and formed up for the attack. The dribs and drabs arrival of the US aircraft I think had a big impact on the AtoA kills and makes it easier for the Chinese to swat down all the missiles as they straggle in. It might be realistic for a defensive situation when carrier task force is surprised and has to scramble, but the USN certainly wouldn't attack like that.

brucescott
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I think the reason a bunch of F-35s started dying they didn't RTB after running out of long range missiles

raptorblarg