The Demise of 10x Dev | Prime Reacts

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Its amazing how I didn't even know prime a month ago and now he is the guy I watch and listen to the most daily. Blessed to have a veteran like him guiding me.

elhaambasheerch
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How many kids today get to start tinkering with their computers and programming through things like Minecraft mods or Roblox games?
There's still plenty of opportunities to get into computers from a young age.

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Programmers create for a living. It’s one of the very few creative jobs that big companies will pay you to perform—that has its own pros and cons. But ultimately we still want to create, and that comes with a certain level of selfishness. We want to create what we want to make, and we want to do it our way. Often love, family, and even basic tasks like eating and sleeping—anything that takes time away from the process begins to feel like a burden. Many of the greatest creators also struggled the most with this side of life. Physicists, musicians, writers, actors—all notorious for creating at the expense of their personal lives.

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I can't help but feel like there's the potential to develop a very real addiction with all of the seretonin releasing feedback loops we have

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as a zoomer who has been programming for a while it's not a generational thing where "us kids" don't care about code quality - rather as someone in college right now I believe that this is a side effect of more accessible programming education. it's pretty easy to get through comp sci 101 and 102, and it's also pretty easy for those who do to think they have learned enough - after all that mentality is what the rest of school teaches us. It's not that there are less enthusiasts, it's that there are more people who can choose comp sci as a career/major. Side effect of comp sci going mainstream, if you will. At least this is my take on it. I'm an EE major in college and a enthusiast programmer but I didn't want to major or work in the comp sci field - I find EE much more interesting. Similarly there are EE students who aren't enthusiastic and generally don't perform as well in class, not sure if correlation is causation here. My point is that the niche enthusiast only industry was rare to begin with, and as comp sci became more accessible the seasoned veterans are just seeing the result of more people in the field.

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My two favorite reasons for 'why do we do this to ourselves?' that you appeared to miss were 'autism' and 'inertia'. Autism would be mine.

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I resonated deeply with your dishwashing comment and the need to succeed. I was in the same position personally; my wife being two months pregnant, still in college for computer engineering, completing a coding Bootcamp at the same and transitioning to the agony of job search and the algorithm grind.

Children does change you, and consider myself lucky to have managed a well paying software engineering job when she was 9 months old.

Love your content, very insightful

hamzahullah
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10x developer often means you are working 10x more than you need to

thomasmatthews
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working from home has me motivated to be a 0x engineer. Of late I just can't be f'd doing anything lol

farqueueman
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Why use Git when you can just use USB sticks? 10x DEV

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demise of the 10x developer, and rise of the 'GIGA-CHAD-DEVELOPER'

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I've been working as a developer for over 2 decades and I've contributed to many open source projects. One thing I've noticed is a lot of programmers are people who are socially awkward with poor social skills. In Apache there are tons of people with a natural inclination for programming, but don't have basic social skills. That often results in flame wars on the mailing lists with egos blowing up. Writing code fast is a terrible measure of "is this person a good developer?"

People like these should talk to a therapist and work on the other parts of themselves. In fact, everyone should see a therapist on a regular basis. I tell this to young developers that I mentor.

that blog sounds a lot like flame wars I've seen on apache mailing list. this obsession over 10x is stupid ego wanking. I've worked with people who considered themselves 10x. Guess what they weren't actually 10x. The real 10x programmer don't give a shit about that stuff.

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I'm a father too, and I couldn't agree more. My sons completely changed me.

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The end of this video is — unironically — the most motivational piece of advice I’ve listened to. This is what people should be striving for.

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I feel exactly the same way. There are LARGE amount of projects I attempted to start in college, and once I went off script or attempted to do something on my own, I would get a lot of bugs and errors that would result in more bugs after fixing them. Discouraging me from trying to learn something while also feeding into my Imposter Syndrome along with other issues I had at the time.

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I also am a developer that predates the 90's, 1982 to be exact and we basically had nothing. You needed to build your software yourself if you wanted something. In a time that no one knew what a computer is.

When you have build software from the ground up, created your own version OS32 in assembler, created your first text to speech in 1982's with a special text to speech chip. You know your things around and how to rebuild civilization after a nuke attack by takin, g spare CPUs from a washing machine.

Nowadays developing is 80% bureaucracy, pushing tickets and using someone's else's nuget library. to export a "<HTML>" text string.
It is a complete different kind of developers. From time to time I try to share my knowledge, but if it is not somehow connected to a book then they get lost in understanding what I try to explain. For them I sound like a crazy old guy 🙂

And I have no problem with that, I keep my brain sharp during my off-office time.

I don't think that modern day developer will ever be able to create exciting things, because their brain never got trained in finding solutions on their own, they always need some help of an external library or else their days are doomed. I think modern day developers will be get surpassed pretty fast by even younger generation. I don't think they will last for decades. Just throw away developers for companies.

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TL;DR: the author has ADHD and thinks he isn't "special", he's just a millennial programmer, thus "back in my day"ing his way to believing that Gen Z has no enthusiasm

The first half of this article is ADHD + bad educational experiences + beginnings of burnout.

I had the "luck" of being labelled as "gifted" early on in life, which provided the needed motivation to love learning.

Listening to this article made me realise that I'm finally on the other side of burnout; I'm getting out of it. I hear what he's saying and recognise that a past version of me resonated 90-something% with it. Burnout fucks you up, but it pushes even more growth.

The second half kinda went off the rails though. I think he fell into the classic fallacy of over-generalisation and making conclusions based on perception. As a member of the "new generation of programmers", the people I talk to who are actually invested and good at programming are the ones who are passionate about it. In fact, I'd wager that getting better at coding brings that passion out in a lot of people. I've anecdotally observed people that started with 0 coding knowledge and end up enjoying the brain workout. I've also seen people get something akin to math anxiety where there brains just halt whenever they hear anything technical.

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There are still enthusiast programmers today, it just isn't all of them.

Drenmii
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I love this video when we can think more about our career, what it's really to be a software engineer, and see there're people with different perspectives... It's like stocolmo syndrome, you live every day, the same things that became reality in your life but ins't and someone need to say!!

daltonyon
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I mean this sincerely: you are a "philosopher programmer", and it is refreshing and at times enlightening. Thank you, Prime.

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