Dopamine Without Effort Is Terrible | Andrew Huberman

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[Britton_Thompson]

As a former heroin addict.... this is spot on! Once you realize the most intensely sensational experience imaginable can be felt frequently with little effort, nothing motivates you anymore. I repeat : NOTHING. Seriously, which one are you going to choose?

A lot of time, money, and studying for an obnoxious chick with a revolting ego and average bedroom skills in order to experience just 10 short seconds of sexual gratification that 20+ other guys have already beaten you to with her

Or a bump/shot of something that can mostly be obtained within minutes for much cheaper, that feels 5X more intense than sex ever will, which lasts 3 hours nonstop and is accompanied by a relaxing 1 hour comedown interval afterwards

Of course you're picking the drug. It's not even close! Unearned dopamine releases transform humans into one-track mind zombies

(Yes, withdrawals are torturous, but to the addict it'll always be worth it because what keeps you going during this time is the knowledge that your next hit is going to feel AMAZING now that your body is so detoxified in it's current state. There are no secret reserves of willpower locked within us we just need to learn to access. No, you have to hit rock bottom— not just once but multiple times —before you even begin to consider the possibility of resetting the healthy internal chemistry you've spent years decimating by rewarding yourself with something that demands no effort from you first)

[ronaldmello]

What else happens is that later on in life, because they have always been told that they are special and great and...etc...etc. When they say...apply for a great job that someone else ends up getting, they don't understand, and it throws them for a loop. They can't fathom that they didn't get the job if they are so special and a winner.

[FalcaoXTZ]

Children have YouTube and tiktok rewarding their dopamine center without any effort. The next generation are ruined

[mindmeldmachine]

Happened with me. Parents crushed me with too much love. Doctors told em Im not gonna make it to 15, so they thought ay lets make it as comfy as possible. Everything was handed to me, nothing mattered. Now I am twice that old and it is very hard to stay motivated because nothing gives me pleasure, really. I have a very unhealthy no fucks given attitude. I have been unemployed since school (for like 14 years now?), my parents died and i am pretty much alone at this point.

It took me very long to not blame my childhood for my misgivings, but that is kinda the easy way out. In the end, it is all on me. And not on my parents. But it is very hard sometimes. But this is the first year where I actually feel like I have SOME control over my life. Learning a skill on my own, starting a job next month to have a better financial support system. 1% each day, right?

[xeropunt]

on the other hand, I’ve read that nothing raises their self esteem/worth like adoring your kids, don’t know about showering them all the time with it though.

[Thaco]

I used to be an elementary teacher for a number of years, and I can attest that this is true. Further, kids know if they get an award for doing nothing that it is meaningless. The tricky part is giving the message to the kids who did not win or accomplish a lot that they still have worth, and they should keep trying hard.

[josueveguilla]

In other words, life on easy mode is terrible.

[alberte]

Back when my dad was selecting the school to enroll me (i think kindergarden) he looked at the schools my brothers attended, and one of the one he disliked was this private school where essentially what is being talked in this vid, giving trophies and stuff that is jmfor something really miniscule.

[SoftChroma]

People say this is a millennial problem… but who were the adults giving out these trophies? We never asked for them!! If we did, it’s up to the adults to set boundaries and help us cope with the emotions of not getting one. I literally remember these trophies, and wondering why the heck do we get these? We didn’t need trophies, we needed high fives, hugs, handshakes, encouragement, connection, and to feel the pain of losing sometimes. This very much feels like a “parents if millennials” (or whoever decided to make this a thing) problem 😂

[coleman]

checkpoint system; I do this I go do that. I now accomplished this, time for that.

[xeropunt]

there’s also this:
I go to a camp, we play soccer & everyone has to play, I don’t play any sports, but to oblige I go & give 110%. At the end. the guy who’s been playing in soccer leagues all his life gets rewarded. It was a peace of cake for him. But I was busting my ass. So you feel it’s rigged in his favor, kinda haha.

[michaelangel]

I thought it was Sean Penn talking for a second there lol Good insights though!

[blackberrybubblegum]

Whta about shaming them? I think negative reinforcement is better. Probably 70% negative and 30% positive reinforcement.

Worked for me.


No actuualy i think its more intrinsic motivation than negative reinforcement

[Whff_Hound]

One thing I noticed was that this dude never answers. He just state things and left you with questions, now you gotta go watch his podcast to find out, not sure he's gonna answer things there either.

[theMightywooosh]

I think people need to actually watch the low skilled kids playing (and learning) any sport and you realize they're not actually playing the sport very well, none of them are (even the winners)... The participation ribbon or whatever you want to call it is because they are there getting practiceing and better ... And they individually know if they played well or not.

Of course the parents clapping, cheering every little move and freaking out doesn't help...

[ilmacignodisisifo]

This video is literally dopamine without effort :)

[Xian]

I've legit never actually seen 'everyone gets the same ribbon' as a real thing, just a meme

[LLandS]

I don't know where this child sporting events are where everybody gets a ribbon. I must have really little kids. And when really little kids are learning Sports it isn't about winning or losing it's just about learning the fundamentals of the game. So if you participate and you learn that young you have one. When they get older it's very much about who won and who lost. I've Coast women hockey for younger girls my entire life and never once have I given anyone a participation ribbon. The only time that happens is for Timbits. I feel like this is a made-up problem.

[MissJami]

He talks out both sides of his mouth. Internal reward is the only thing that matters.