ULTIMATE HUB VS MID DRIVE EBIKE TESTS!!!

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[martinfieder]

Have both, if you are realy Mountainbiking on steeper hills and Mountains only the midrive works, as you have to shift to lower gears. However in rather flat Terrain the hub is a perfect Option.

[integra]

You should put your mid Drive in a gear that gives same Top speed as the Hub, . then do the test staying in that gear.

[pointno]

I have a trek Roscoe 6 2022 model can I put a 3000w" mtx 39 kit on it

[sigmaoctantis_nz]

Have you enabled field weakening on the Phaserunner to increase top speed? I can accelerate from a stop to around 60kph without changing gear on my BBSHD making it great for town use. It's possible to get to 80kph (50mph) in higher gears but probably not good for the motor starting like that.

[HUJUism]

Love the smooth ride of hub motors no matter what.

[ronniew]

When do you think you'll have the battery and controller in the same housing ?

[TommyLuptak]

Grin has that GMAC geared hub with regen. 2500watts but some are peaking them at 4Kw. I love regen and because it’s a 5 to 1 geared hub, the regen braking brings you to a complete stop 😊. Omg. Now I have to build one.

[chargeriderepeat]

I run a geared hub at 2500w max.
It stonks a direct drive off the line and up steep hills.
Probably the best approach if you want the best of both.

[broadsworddannyboy]

Hiya Andy. I’ve just built a 1500watt hub motor bike with 52volt battery.
So my my question to you is. What’s the difference between the basic Chinese speed controller you get with the kit and a phase runner SC? And does it include pedal assist?
Would you recommend the investment to change it?
Cheers, Danny

[neekodevinchi]

Sick video Andy. Shredding the gnar!! Steve's custom Orange kept up with the ultra motor so I'm sure that will raise eyebrows. I might shoot a video comparing a Specialized Levo vs my bafang ultra bike. Keep up the vids mate and digging the new track towards the end of the vid 😁

[daved]

@9:14 I thought we were about to see a 'george, watch out for the tree' moment! 🤣

[yodab.at]

I'm thinking of adding a mid drive to my bike which already has a rear hub motor. The thinking behind this is I want extra torque for faster acceleration, but would probably switch it so the rear is only driving at max speed. It's a bafang mid, only 250w, but for intermittent bursts, I could probably shove 500-750w before burn... Might be a wheelie monster

[wayneuk]

if u need anything 3d printing iam just out of chelmsford

[cwitham]

The tortoise & the hare ... Thanks for another great test/review mate! I run a 6061 alloy FS frame with a 52v-21aH LunaCycle BBSHD w/ Hot Rod programming using a Shimano 3-speed IGH chained to 52T/22T gears. Huge torque in 1st gear and 47mph on the flats top end. I cruise with normal traffic & walk abouts at sane speeds and more than respect laws. I'm more than satisfied!

[Full_Throttle_no_Brakes]

Very nice and informative video.
Quite fun as well!

You forgot to say hub motor is much cheaper.

[BillyNoMates]

Good video. Good test.
Andy are you planning on any more vids in the shed ?
How’s Sarah these days, she hasn’t posted in a while ? Hope she’s ok

[craigelliott]

Not long found you two. I live close by, I'm definitely testing my build there, I usually row or hike there... can't wait to tear it up.

[ixxolos]

Praise be to GrinTechnologies for the Phaserunner! Such a sweet bit of kit <3

[TommyLuptak]

I’ve been building electric propulsion for 10 years. So what electric bicycle or vehicle do you need? All of them. Lol
Build for what you need. And size motor, controller and battery for the task 😁
Thank you for your videos here!!!

[bobpatty]

Which is better? Easy! Both! My ride sports a Bafang mid drive fed at 72v(bac800) and a 8000w hub with single speed cassette (52/28) 72v 72150 Sabo. Both are fed by two 72v 30amp hour parallel triangular. MUCHO TORQUE bro!