🚴 eBike Buyer’s Guide: Mid Drive vs. Hub Motor! 🚴 🔥

🚴‍♀️🔥In this vídeo I talk about the Advantages and Disadvantages of Hub Motors Vs Mid Drive so that you can make an informed decision when buying an ebike and which motor is best for your particular use case!

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[brianjennings]

I think history is our greatest teacher.. Let's step back and look at what the ATV industry learned from the snowmobile industry. From that Era the ATV industry adopted the CVT (Constantly Variable Transmission) from the snowmobile industry. Why? Well, let me give you an example, from back a number of years ago. I had an ATV (Polaris) with a CVT Transmission and my buddy had a Yamaha with a larger engine and alot more torque, with a manual transmission. Let's also remember everyone at that time said a CVT tranny wouldn't last and he poked fun at me for buying that bike! On our first ride together we encountered many surprises on the trail. I was able to blow right through them while keeping my eyes on the trail and he got slowed way down or stuck several times. Why? He was going down the path at the same speed as me but when he needed more torque and got caught in a gear that was to high, he couldn't downshift in time! He also got alot more exercise than me rocking his bike back and forth, trying to get unstuck 😂 Actually, had to pull him out a couple of times.. Torque is only relative to the gear your in on a manual transmission! To sum it up he bought a Polaris and the rest of the ATV industry soon adopted the CVT tranny as well! Think this applies only to trail riding, wrong! I've had to quickly throttle out of a situation (without thinking about what gear I'm in) on the pavement from a vehicle that made a bad decision in front of me! Until we have electronic eyes on our bikes and AI that can make split second decisions, a Hub or direct drive motor will always win. Now I know we've never had the choice to pedal on an ATV, which makes ebikes alot more rewarding! But unless you think you can always react correctly to any situation, I think we can learn alot from previous riders and industries before. Can you even buy an ATV with a manual tranny anymore? Great video with alot of information, enjoy your reviews!

[redsorgum]

One advantage of the hub drives is that if your drive train drive becomes damaged so you aren't able to pedal, then you can use the throttle to get you home, even if you have to stop a few times to put a charge back into the battery. I prefer a front hub drive. It makes it easier to fix flats on the rear or front tires.

[RobertHaworth]

A mid-drive motor will give the most torque. A gear driven hub motor will offer the 2nd most torque. A direct drive hub motor weighs the most but offers a higher top end speed than the mid drive and the direct drive motor can handle being over volting for an even higher top end speed with a higher amp controller upgrade. Love your videos Keep up with your happy go lucky personality.

[chrislatchem]

Very interesting video and good analysis. I think e-bikes are early in their evolution, and we will see lots of changes. One of your commentators mentioned history as a great teacher, and I think he is right. With motorcycles there was a lot of experimenting with motor position until most motor bikes go with centralized motor. (Exception: scooters) E-bike are different but it may be that we see:
-centralized weight BATTERY and motor
- a drive train specialized to take the added torque
-gears to adapt to terrain perhaps like the CVT transmission


But I am wildly speculating...one thing I have learned, the BATTERY and CONTROLLER are central to the e-bike and not just a gas tank as on a motorcycle.
Exciting times in terms of evolution.

[terryrccrazy]

Lots of great information, much to consider. Thanks

[Altema]

Not saying one is always better than the other, but just to put the data out there...
Bafang BBSHD: 12.5 lbs.
Bafang BBS02: 9.5 lbs.
Bafang hub drive G062: 9 lbs.
Mid drives are well suited for mountain bikes, but for road bikes, I have yet to meet one that could keep up with a good hub drive for more than the first few feet.
In terms of an e-bike being jerky, that is entirely due to the programming and/or controller quality. My main ride is a hub drive that is buttery smooth with both the throttle and pedal assist, and I use it quite a bit for purely exercise.

[SciD]

Powerful hub motors, like the one on the Wired, are the way to go. With a mid-drive, the strain on the chain and cassette is insane! They don't last long. And having to shift all the time on a mid-drive is a real pain in the butt! And if you break your chain, which happens often with mid-drives, with a hub drive, you can still get home with the throttle.

[robotbroken]

I think that this video offers great useful information for anyone that is considering the purchase of their first eBike and how the two drive configurations may affect their riding style and ease of use requirements.
It is a very well done video!
Thank you, very much!

[johncoffman]

I see you are riding your Suburban I love mine. I also purchased an Aipas C2 another great bike

[Michael-rlp]

Get a BOSCH motor and battery your best buy and choice

[bobk]

High end Downhill/Mountain e-bikes are all mid-drive. Not everyone can afford a 9 grand E-bike. I’ll stick with my old school hub motors with their turbo lag. Happy riding. .

[Sid]

Hey amiga! Sooo yeah. I'm uh..pretty much clueless on mid drives. I see em' around and never been on one. After that bit a knowledge you dropped on me, I think I'll only be sticking to hubs.
Now I see these hub kits for sale. They come with the motor, controller, battery, etc. and the hubs sometimes come already installed on a wheel. Some even include a tire or dual wheel setups. Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't using hubs be another advantage like, say im souping up my Xclass, wouldn't a hub setup be easier rather then tearing apart that area of the bike and hoping everything in there fits? Educate me, please:)
On a unrelated topic. Its almost 60 in RI today! Still too cold for the Zero and the Xclass is under construction but Onyx battery is done charging and after I'm done writing this lovely message to you😁-going out and beating the piss outta that bike and battery!! Oh yeah!
Great video, pleasure to watch! Ride fast🤙

[justinsane]

I'm looking for a goldwing ebike.😅

[stavman]

I have a rear hub motor 750 with a rear casette 11 28( 29x2.1 inch wheel tire) and i ride only by use pedal assist !!! I have climb mountains over 4000ft and often ride over 3000ft !! ...Use batterie 48v 30A and manage over 110mil distance !!! So my conclusion is that using always your feet the difference of hub and mid is very small !! And I am talking about almost 100% riding in asphalt roads ! Am i correct ?

[ebikeengineer]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on a throttle being bad for a mid drive. It makes no difference if the signal to the controller comes from the throttle, PAS sensor, or a torque sensor. It's just an electronic signal to the controller to apply power to the motor, there is zero difference to the motor or drivetrain. Now driving poorly (like being jerky with the throttle or jerky with pedaling) can generate stress but that's due to poor driving, not the source of the signal. I totatlly agree with you conclusion that the type of motor that is best depends on the user's situation; kudos for understanding that not all riders needs are the same many ebikers miss this truth!

[calvintanner]

Which has better range, a hub or a mid drive ?

[rabbithomesteading]

I love power. lol Thats all! lmao 🤣