What if the Third Reich survived WW2?

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[giovannir]

Glad this came up in my feed. She is so engaging and informative. Thanks for doing this interview and posting

[chadwhitman]

She had a good point about Britain being a maritime power rather than a Continental power. In many of Continental wars including the Napoleonic Wars her role in the land battles was secondary to her maritime roles, even in the Peninsular wars she had the somewhat ineffectual Spanish allies both regular army and Guerrilla forces tying down many French troops and winning some battles. In the seven years wars her main contribution was monetary to the hard pressed Prussia but she reaped huge rewards in India and America by virtue of her naval strength. The First world War changed all that.

[MrGchiasson]

This woman is brilliant and interesting at the same time.
I could sit and listen to her for hours.

[DannyPoet]

Really interesting point on WW1 being the cause of what happened after.. makes u kind of wonder what world wed be living in if WW1 never started ..

[oliverstianhugaas]

"Not a happy ending" That's reality.

[hunflovescandid]

General Patton: "We defeated the wrong enemy."

[OrnumCR]

I agree entirely with her viewpoint. WW1 was the absolute catalyst for the consequences of what followed. In essence, a part one, then a pause, then a part two to really finalise things….awful.

[georges.]

Germany's economic philosophy of autarky was not sustainable. Autarky demanded that the Germans conquest the Slavic lands to the east to maintain self-sufficiency. Stopping with the annexation of adjacent German-speaking lands would have led to the collapse of the German economy.

[thedailywin]

These interviews would be perfect if Patel's rambling, stream-of-consciousness inquiries were ruthlessly edited down into single questions that didn't require more than 5-7 seconds each. Better yet, just have him read from a prepared script...off camera, if necessary. We know he means well, and his interest in the subject is admirable, but...just put him on a verbal diet. Please.

Prof. Paine's replies, on the other hand, shouldn't be touched. Every sentence, every thought, every suggestion...they can all stand on their own.

[williamherbert]

WW1 accelerated fascism and communism; it also accelerated anti-semitism, particularly in Germany.

[weirdshibainu]

While WW1 undoubtedly held a catalyst for WW2, the prime directive for Britain's policy toward the Continent has always been living in fear of a continental superpower, no matter the nation, nor the ideology. Britain has played the role of agitator on the continent for centuries in order to keep the various nations in check. They simply cannot afford to live in the shadow of unified continent, no matter how tenuous.

[mcd]

These are brilliant! Please make more!!!! Sara Paine is just wonderful with her intelligence and incisiveness.

[flammenjc]

Very true that WW1 is the pivot point and not WW2.

Further more WW2 showcased how to actually fire with firearms effectively. WW1 only showed how little we actually understood about the tactical use of firearms in modern warfare.

[anthonygerace]

Brilliant woman. A family anecdote that supports her point about the cultural differences between Germans and Russians: A branch of my extended family are Jews whose ancestors were in Poland until World War Two. In 1939, Poland, of course, was JOINTLY invaded by Germans from the west and Soviets from the east. The family members who were in western Poland were mostly wiped out by the Nazis, with only a few surviving. The family members who were in eastern Poland were deported to Soviet forced-labor camps in Russia. Plenty of hardships, but most of them survived. At least for them, Stalin was the lesser of two evils.

[johngalt]

If they didn’t invade Russia, and called it quits, they could have negotiated trade with Soviet Union and built defences in east Poland and Romania instead of taking on the largest country on earth.

[ericofthewest]

This talking point about grand strategy gives you far more appreciation for General Grant during the US Civil War. He understood logistics, communication and the necessity to achieve long-term goals vs tactical gains. The Confederacy came close to crushing the Union fighting spirit multiple times but Grant plotted carefully on how to break their capacity to fight.

[mazs]

Surprised to see so many Fascist apologists in the comments.

[thomasjames]

The Great War was so influential to today's geopolitics and economic powerhouses. The gunshot that killed Franz Ferdinand began a chain reaction that we still see today.

[Nick-ruu]

General Patton said we fought wrong people

[Mtjakaramazov]

This is also the fundamental reason why the British insistence on actively blaming the Germans for WW1 is erroneous. The problem with WW1 was not that it happened, but HOW it happened; and all sides have equal fault in that. WW2 had a far greater death toll, but it didn't murder an entire generation of young men as senselessly as WW1. The fact that eminent historians like Max Hasings have gone back to aggressively calling for re-blaming the Germans is quite shocking.