Is He Out of the Baseline? #baseball #shorts #umpire

Is He Out of the Baseline? 13U Baseball

[MrYeast-qmfr]

Bro went so far outa line he actually went home instead of home

[nickcox]

The base path is defined in Rule 5.09(b)(1):

"A runner's base path is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely."

The wording is important. The base path is established (created) "when the tag attempt occurs." in other words, until there is a tag attempt, there is no base path. And then this: The base runner is out if "running more than three feet away from the baseline to avoid being tagged." At the moment the base path is established (when the tag is attempted), the runner cannot veer more than three feet to the left or right of the base path for the purpose of avoiding a tag.

It's important that a base path only exists when a fielder is attempting to make a tag. At all other times there is no base path (no such thing) and in fact the runner is free (at his peril) to run pretty much anywhere he wishes. There are limits to this (see Rule 5.09(b)(10) regarding "making a travesty of the game"); however, the central point remains: the base runner creates his own base path.

[puttingwarheadsonforeheads]

I umpire and that’s a tough one. You can’t obstruct the base path if you don’t have the ball. However a runner has 3 feet of room on each side of the white line to run. I’d call safe for the judgement that the runner attempted to avoid a collision with the pitcher or first baseman even though he didn’t have the ball. You can’t obstruct a base path without the ball in your possession. All that being said if the first baseman or pitcher had the ball a second or so earlier and the runner did the same thing I’d call out.

Edit thanks for all the upvotes and comments. For reference I’ve been umpiring for 9 years im 23 years old and I do 8-12 games a week from March-September. I do little league/travel teams/highschool/men’s baseball. However I’ve noticed a clear trend. Those who agree are either coaches/players or other umpires. Those who argue are either boomers or young people who have no idea what they’re talking about. It’s really entertaining to read them.

[billyfraiser]

A lot of people here don't know the actual rule. I will say this, I'll admit, Idk if the rule is different for Little League or not... but if we're talking about just in general.. here's the basic rule for a play like this:

The runner determines where the baseline is. That runner could literally taken a 90 degree turn, run over to within 2 feet of the dugout, then ran home...and would be safe.... AS LONG AS ONE IMPORTANT THING DID NOT HAPPEN: A fielder attempt a tag on the runner. The runner can run whenever he wants, as long as there isn't a tag being attempt on him. Yup, he could even run out into RF, CF, LF...wherever he wants.

Once a tag attempt is made... THAT'S when the runner has that 3 foot rule (a lot of you are referencing). If a tag is being attempted on him, then he only has 3 feet on either side, to go around the tag.

In this video, you don't see the tag attempt until AFTER the runner has made his wide turn.. meaning the runner is 100% SAFE.

Anyone don't believe me?? Look the rule up for yourself.

[T.C.Rocket]

Boy just ran like his dad just took away his PS5. All wobbly

[jasonjaffrey]

The real crime is that the pitcher didn’t come home to cover….he went to the runner instead of protecting the house.

[accordman]

He went out to lunch, then came back in bounds.

[tommarbach]

I’m not an umpire, but the way I understand it is that there is no base path until the player catches the ball in front of the base runner. At that point the base path is a straight line between the base runner (where ever he is at) and the next base. He is allowed a 3 foot deviation to either side.

[failurefiend]

"The only time that a baseline must be determined is when a defensive player tries to tag out a runner. At that point, the baseline becomes an imaginary straight line between the runner's current location and the base that he or she is trying to reach"

Also, "Once a play is being made on him, he has three feet leeway to legally avoid a tag."

[Jonah-weww]

Bro was blocking his path w/o the ball

[asthecitysleepsofficial]

He moved before a tag attempt was made. 100% legal. Fielder didn’t even have the ball and was blocking his path.

[michaelpawlak]

Technically that would be interference by the pitcher. The putcher entered the baseplate without the ball and one received the ball when the runner got to the spot. If the pitcher had the ball earlier, then the runner would be out of the basepath.

[mikewil]

I have obstruction here. Pitcher hindered the runner without the ball. Runner awarded home.

[FactsMatter]

30-year umpire veteran here.
No. A baseline is established when there is a tag attempt. From the moment of the (horrible) tag attempt, he was already in that position. No call. Safe at home.

[cericson]

He damn near went and sat in the dugout for for a minute.

[pailynn]

There’s always gottta be that one mom that said there ya go baby on a bunt right to the pitcher

[mentallyunstablebravesfan]

Bro took run home to a whole new level

[Dt-]

Yes. The crazy part is, he didn’t even need to run out of the line. He was safe regardless.

[codemessiah]

Bro went home to drink a glass of water and came back 💀

[elizabethswimm]

When your running to home you can run out baseline but when you hit the ball you need to stay in baseline