Suspicious Scientist: Do the UFO Sightings Seem Off? Brian Keating on Joe Rogan

I had the pleasure of asking the one and only Joe Rogan how he reacts when he's talking to someone and he thinks they're wrong. This happened to me recently when I was talking to Ryan Graves and his team about their UFO sighting, and the science behind it seemed fishy to me! Here are my thoughts on the whole situation...

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[LBTennis]

It doesn't matter if you think they're saying something that's correct or not. They're saying they have the evidence and it's classified. These people seem really eager to try to get the evidence to us. We should support them in that effort then. Our beliefs don't matter. Let's see the evidence. If we as the public don't demand it then we won't get it.

[isabellecampbell]

The one thing Joe Rogan has and you lack, is the courage to challenge his guests when they are right in front of him. You going on his show and saying you don’t believe pilots after the fact is weak. You should have addressed that in your OWN podcast while they were there and made your point then.

[michaelstone]

Instead of whining about grainy photos and, hearsay testimony, help the whistle-blower to come foward!! Use your show Joe to put pressure on the senators and congressmen. Demand they provide a secure scif and the proper security clearances. These people have the information, they just need the right environment.

[abc-ygtk]

What convinced me this phenomenon is really advanced NHI is not just 2 or 3 cases. It's a lot over a long period of time and different countries. Forget Nimitz and Ryan and you still have very credible cases that are hard to ignore or explain.
As a scientist you need the hard evidence, but I bet you dont need hard evidence when someone you trust tells you something.
Detective work involves spending many hours getting to know the witnesses, even just through videos. Then you start seeing patterns with different people across time and countries. Gets very spooky.

[MrMosis]

We're going to let peer pressure cause us to leave Fravor and Graves hung out to dry on Joe Rogan....

In eternity, telling the truth despite the taboos against doing so will resonate.

[edriley]

News flash...navy pilots are not the only experiencers of the uap phenomenon. Get a clue doc.

[MattKinMI]

The problem here is that it wasn't just visual - there are multiple points of data collection...

[barakman]

Your claim that, quote, 'Ryan Graves did not see anything with his eyes, he saw things on the radar' is in contradiction with Ryan Graves's testimony during the congressional hearing, where he claimed to have witnessed a black or silver cube surrounded with a lucid sphere, from a distance of about 15 feet (or maybe it was 50, but both cases are within visible range for a human being).
Please correct me if I'm wrong or inaccurate.

[LBTennis]

Disappointing to see the scientists of our time drop the ball just like past generations.

[DaydreamNative]

I watched the episode so IDK if the relevant part is in this clip but I think you'll find spoofing a phased array radar like the Princeton's is a little trickier than in your WW2 example. This is further magnified by the fact that they were also simultaneously observed by the radar on the Nimitz and the E-2 Hawkeye aircraft. Also think it's kind of hilarious how you're keen to point out that the warning areas aren't like Area51 and can be flown through by any random in a Cessna, but then go on to suggest that they'd be testing super-secret US tech out there. The reason they're often seen in military areas is more likely because that's where the assets with sensors capable of detecting them often are. You should talk to Kevin Knuth on your show to have the case made by another scientist (hilarious that you reference Mick West btw, you should ask your friend Eric what he thinks of his approach to this) because you don't value pilots' expertise in using aviation sensors to differentiate airborne targets enough to believe that they can tell a balloon or a distant jet from an anomalous target using them.

[TheHighlanderprime]

I don’t agree with Brian Keating on Pilot’s observations of UAps as it relates to observations; if you do something often enough, you will have a better sense of what you observe in that environment than the layman, even a scientist … I think his scientistic tendencies to judge everything based on that process may be exposing a form of bias that even he cannot gauge.

[RetroGamer_George]

If David Fravor could be that wrong about something, I would be very frightened and concerned about who is flying US Military Fighter Jets, and if the pilots are that incompetant I'm surpised that dozens of civillian planes have not been shot down accidently.

[gastronic]

You asked Ryan a question that I had suggested on Twitter. So I can put that and that Joe watched on my resume 😁
I like the way you asked Joe for advice on how to handle a particular situation when you think your guest is wrong.
In the case of Ryan, I think you could have confronted him with the argument that nobody's a trained observer and people make mistakes. He should accept that, and probably would.
But really, and I admire your open-mindedness deeply, brother Bryan. 🙏
But Fravor and Dietrich (and two others) see an object the size of a small school bus moving above the water, erratically like a ping-pong ball.
There just might have truly been something physics-defying flying there, if not physics-denying.
It's quite a convincing story, especially once you know more of likewise convincing stories from credible people (being very critical before calling someone credible).
If you're not convinced, OK and understandable, but that's also telling about you. And you should accept that, and you probably will.

But you're an American, you should know at least a bit about the main characters of the Roswell story, from a historical perspective.
There's All aircraft specialist and intelligence officer Major Jesse Marcel (pilot), his base commander (and pilot) Col. William H. Blanchard, and Walter Haut, Blanchard's public information officer.
Just read their Wiki pages to find out how credible they are. Blanchard was the commanding officer of the only AF base in the world with heavy nuclear striking capabilities. I'd say very credible. And it was he who issued the press release that the RAAF had captured a flying disk. Major Jesse Marcel is the one who spent a day picking up all the debris from the crash. And Major Marcel was in charge of all security and intelligence on atomic tests in the US and the Pacific. I'd say very credible. And he's always been convinced that the material that he found was not of this Earth.
He had to keep his mouth shut for more than 30 years, but he was very clear and credible about it when he retired. And Walter Haut, the information officer who assisted the base commander with the press release about the disks, is very clearly backing Major Jesse Marcel's story. Just read their Wiki pages and watch what retired all-aircraft specialist Jesse Marcel says.
Historically so important, it's a moral duty for every American ;-)

[calebromo]

"It's not new physics. It's a new perspective on old physic."-Pais
Please do more homework on Salvatore Pais's work on "The Super-Force." We need scientists to stop postering their public image and start being real scientists seeking the truth(not conformation of dogmatic hypothesis).
You are a brilliant experimental physicist. So, please run an experiment on Salvatore Pais work. Test "The Pais effect" and then go down in history for doing so.
This has already been discovered and is being utilized, but because of the secret nature of it all, who gets the credit is up for grabs.
I am just one of 8 billion, a random guy in the comments.
My comments are just another person rambling, but what I'm saying is what will be known to all soon.
The "Pais effect" is a very real physical phenomenon, and it can't be hidden forever.

[Bryan-wwbx]

The problem is the sensor data from multiple platforms that people aren't able to view. I don't think Ryan Graves expects anyone to take his word for it, but with the government holding on to all the scientific data, the public isn't left with much else

[HopelessRomantic]

It is kind of weird that Joe’s going down the ‘nothing to see here’ road regarding UAP’s. Keating obviously has a premeditated De Grasse -like bias on this issue. I think both gentlemen need to step back and open their eyes to what is real.

[maxxmabemwe]

I find it annoying when you are talking to someone, and they talk like they are talking to themselves. This guy is speaking into a microphone, yet you can barely hear him.

[garywillett]

Top gun pilots are smart. If you don’t have a PHD or win a a Nobel prize, I Don’t believe you . Dam, Best aviation experts..

[Achaemenid]

we will never get real hard evidence about ET but the talk generate money and why the show will go on.