AMD Ryzen Windows 11 24H2 update performance boost: I Have Questions!

We've seen early benchmarks from the likes of @Hardwareunboxed covering the Windows 11 24H2 preview update's impact on Ryzen performance and in short it's a really big deal. Huge gains for Ryzen 7000 and 9000 and you'll see boosts with Ryzen 5000 too.

My problem with it, though, is why has AMD not mentioned it till now, why didn't it request reviewers test with it with their Ryzen 9000 reviews and why has it not been making more of a deal out of it given the huge performance increases?

Missed opportunity or could it actually hurt Ryzen 9000 sales?

#pchardware #amd #ryzen9000 #pcgaming #ryzen

[CrazyTechLab]

Huge news!!!! AMD has just announced it will make this update available for the current public version of Windows 11 23H2.

‘ branch prediction optimization found in Windows 11 24H2 has now been backported to Windows 11 23H2. Users will need to look for KB5041587 under Windows update > Advanced options > Optional updates. We expect the performance uplift to be very similar between 24H2 and 23H2 with KB5041587 installed. ‘

So there you have it.

[Narks-]

this update has made my computer so insanely fast in general, literally everything loads instantly and it's unreal. I have that new PC feeling again out of nowhere on a 7800x3D. This is extremely impressive from windows.

[RealityCheck]

It is very strange that AMD did not say anything yet. The fact that older CPU-s are running faster too means someone did a major mistake years ago... :/

[OMGITzHAMMY]

I truly need someone to test Zen 3 CPUs soon. I am still on Windows 10, and if the performance boost is over 5% that will make me upgrade. The last time I installed Windows 11, I had a horrible experience with my Razer software detecting my peripherals, and it was a lot easier/cheaper to buy a Windows 10 OEM key then change my entire peripheral setup.

[weirdodude]

I just made the switch to 24H2 through the dev preview build and it seems very good. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it work right. RIP Windows 10 gaming. Thumbs up!

[tvgerbil]

Apparently new AMD laptops already come with the necessary Windows optimization. Only Windows for desktops are left out by Microsoft.

[dwu]

Intel is way too broke right now to pay off Microsoft to continue to gimp AMD processors.

[OnceYT.]

Is the 5500/5600/5600x/5600g running faster as well? Skeptical if windows insider updates are stable but if the performance increase is good enough might consider updating.

[adogawa]

they should have waited till 24H2 update OR they should have let everyone know about it just like you suggested.

[EugenioDublan]

No one knew antill now. Microsoft was bug for years nerfing ryzen cpu performance antill now .

[danielwagner]

I bought the Ryzen 9 7950X3D a month ago when it was $485.00 so I won't be regretting that I did that and not waited for 9000 series at $650 which turned out to be the right choice for me. I'll wait for the 10, 000 series or whatever comes next. That one should be much better than 9000.

[Sariiger]

This really makes me consider updating to W11. So far I've never even considered it as I've heard a lot of negative things about W11, but the free 10% increase in CPU performance for free seems quite significant.
I'll probably watch some more performance comparisons once the update is actually out.

To answer your question, I'm a 5600x owner, but I'm considering an upgrade to 7800x3D.

[hackintosh]

I find it very odd and hard to believe that it took until now to leverage this without some shenanigans going on. It might be as simple as marketshare and MS never optimizing for AMD due to that. That's IF this is even branch prediction and not some BS TPM 2.0 setting and "security" feature. If it is then we are now giving MS the ability to steal an INSANE amount of performance from people which means that "security" can be the new die shrink to force needed upgrades, which could involve collusion with the hardware makers and MS. Everything about this smells fishy and supposedly TPM 2.0 can't be bypassed during install on new versions of 11 as well. I don't trust any of these companies after things like the PRISM program. They are all scumbags.

[Mako]

AMD made the same mistaken with the 7800x3d that nVidia made with the 1080 ti. It's simply an extremely efficient and fast cpu for gaming. And now it's even faster. I understand how as a company they're in a weird spot, what do you do now?Do you market the new cpus ignoring the windows update performance boost? Brag about how even old cpus will get a boost? Very tricky.

[Dazzxp]

As someone that is using 24H2, what I can tell multi threaded performance is not impacted, it's still about the same, windows background processes seems to have been moved to 1 or 2 cores with SMT while the others are idle. it also allows cores to be parked before they sort of bounced about and used all cores, leaving 6 cores with STM to work on dedicated work i.e games without background processes bouncing them about across all the cores, might be also why Cyberpunk doesn't see much of a increase as it is quite happy using 8 cores anyway, . Maybe with dual CCD's they could offload background tasks to an entirely different CCD and not impact the other doing only games, like 9750x or better yet 7950X3D, none 3D Vcache for windows and the 3D Vcache for games.

My platform is a 5800X3D and noticed a pretty big performance increase. Looking at task manager it just looks like 4 threads are being used out of 16.

[marks]

Good analysis. Would like to have heard more about what the Windows update 24H2 actually does behind the curtains though, what the mechanism is behind the performance increase, and why it is was only found now. Also, does it impact Intel performance or is it just Ryzen core scheduling or whatever?
Interesting theory about why AMD is not promoting. I wonder if it is like conspiracy theories in that what we ascribe to plotting might just be incompetence. :)

[wizzawiztech]

Is kinda weird they not made a song and dance about this. I would have thought they would do big stuff on Youtube and as you say at least try to match with zen 5 launch. But it's good for Ryzen owners. But yeah it's not gonna improve Ryzen 9000 sales - you'd probably stick with 5000 or just go 7000 now they have even more performance.

[heydon]

I have seen a possible rumour that it also effects Ryzen 3000 series processors, but maybe a rumour

[clarenceoveur]

Waiting for your tests, please focus on productivity! It would be great to see a direct comparison between 7950X and 9950X.

[rommelreyes]

People were complaining about the performance of the 9000 series before. Now that there is an increase through a patch you are still complaining. Like what do you really want?