PHILOSOPHY - Metaphysics: Ship of Theseus [HD]

Jennifer Wang (Stanford University) introduces us to a puzzle that has bedeviled philosophy since the ancient Greeks: the Ship of Theseus. She tells the Ship of Theseus story, and draws out the more general question behind it: what does it take for an object to persist over time? She then breaks this ancient problem down with modern clarity and rigor.

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[Gigatony]

Can i use this in court ?
"Sorry lad. Every cells of my being have been replaced.
I'm not the same guy that committed murders few years ago"

[ToryWilliamsKitKat_]

"Neither are the true ship". "They both are the true ship".

[erob]

Here because I didn't get what the 2 flying Magic Robots are talking about.

[kbxi]

*Fans watching WandaVision finale*

Fans after the finale: "I require elaboration"

[johnphillips]

To clarify, imagine if I had a book with over half the pages water damaged. I could theoretically have the pages replaced and the book would tell the same story. The idea and soul of the book has remained. However, if I had the first edition copy and did the same thing there would be a lot of controversy if I tried to sell it as a first edition.

[usmannazir]

POV: You're here after WandaVision finale.

[AlOfNorway]

Philosophers sure had lots of time back then...

[BaileySmooth]

welcome to the “i’m here from the wandavision finale” club.

[lucaswatanabe]

So in layman terms, "neither is the true ship. Both are the true ship."

[MalcolmCooks]

The paradox arises because humans define objects. The "ship of theseus" doesn't exist as anything beyond a label we apply to a collection of wood.

[ethanedelson]

POV: You are here after watching WandaVision.

[smuhv]

Is anyone here because of WandaVision?

[Mitchelllucas]

I immediately relate this with cloning and possibly quantum teleportation. You can even stretch it to surgery, once a part is replaced you would no longer be you. I believe having an educational discussion on it being only a ship helps to discuss it in a non-personal way, separating emotions from the logical possibilities. Once we make it so personal as a human being, we tend to immediately push it morally, instead of using logic.

[mangosope]

So everyone’s just here rn cuz of Wandavision huh

[Daniel-piqd]

Here to kickstart the “who’s here from wandavision series finale”

[TheFir]

First. There was the Ship of Theseus. Now there is Ship of Theseus one and Ship of Theseus Two. Soon enough he will have an entire fleet.

[BlueLightningSky]

Wouldn't it be easier if we say the ship is an abstract entity only made concrete through its parts and arrangement? This would then allow us to keep the idea of having one ship but two physical manifestations.

[ethanedelson]

POV: You read the comments and are already late

[Monadshavenowindows]

I solved this problem over 300 years ago. :)

[hugo]

"What the hell is a white vision?"-Wireless Philosophy