Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame vs Lumix S5II

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Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame vs Lumix S5II

Comparing the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame and the Lumix S5II involves looking at several key aspects:

1. **Sensor Size and Resolution:**
- The Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame features a larger full-frame sensor with a resolution of 6144 x 3456 pixels.
- The Lumix S5II has a Full Frame sensor with a resolution of 24.2 megapixels.

2. **Low Light Performance:**
- The larger sensor of the Blackmagic camera typically provides better low-light performance and shallower depth of field compared to the Lumix S5II.

3. **Dynamic Range:**
- Both cameras offer good dynamic range, with the Blackmagic camera potentially having a slight edge due to its larger sensor.

4. **Recording Formats:**
- The Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame can record in Blackmagic RAW at up to 6K resolution, as well as ProRes.
- The Lumix S5II records in various formats, including 10-bit 4:2:0 internal recording and 10-bit 4:2:2 via HDMI, but at lower resolutions compared to the Blackmagic camera.

5. **Built-in Features:**
- The Lumix S5II has features like in-body image stabilization (IBIS), which can be beneficial for handheld shooting.
- The Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame lacks IBIS but offers professional cinema camera features like dual-native ISO and Braw.

6. **Price:**
- The Blackmagic Cinema 6K is generally more affordable than the LUMIX S5ii, which is a high-end cinema camera.

7. **Lens Compatibility:**
- Both cameras offer a range of lens compatibility, but the Lumix S5II, being a mirrorless camera, may have a wider range of native lens options available.

Your choice between these cameras would depend on your specific needs and budget. If you prioritize image quality, cinematic features, and have a larger budget, the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K Full Frame might be the better choice. However, if you're looking for a more versatile, all-around camera with good video capabilities at a more affordable price point, the Lumix S5II could be a better fit.

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As a Lumix owner (so not biased), the motion seems far more organic on the Blackmagic. I thought it was the read out speed but this video proves it's not that. The Lumix almost feels jittery. I've noticed an improvement with b-raw on the Lumix for sure. I'd love to see a comparison between b-raw on both cams to se if it is still that drastic a difference. I'd love to know Blackmagic is doing that Lumix isn't...

heroaomedia
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Fam, you had this Camera less than a week and already dropped (4) videos. This is why I fucks with PRIME ATL. Keep going!!!

Wynn
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Confirms what I've noticed with my Pocket 6K versus my S5II (which I wanted to replace the Pocket as the go to hybrid camera that rules them all). The S5II looks like you attach a lens to your iPhone and record in Apple Log and then grade it. The Pocket 6K looks like a compact travel Arri Camera - if you don't care about no IBIS and no Autofocus (I don't care about either). There's something very pleasant and natural and filmic about Blackmagic versus the S5II and the FX30 and FX3 (had both). Also, the greens are so weird on the S5II. Yikes... And BRAW is so nice and easy to grade. I've heard it multiple times... "get Blackmagic Video Assist and record RAW on the S5II" - but what's the point of all of that if what you need is one box to do it all. Once you start attaching stuff to it it's no longer one package. That way, if I carry something else with me, I'd rather get a RS4 and Lidar for the Pocket.

madsonit
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I had a S5IIX for a few months and I did like the camera, but the BMCC 6K is just a different beast in my eyes. YouTube compression makes it a little bit harder to see the real difference between them.

sodinger
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I used both on a recent shoot my conclusion is this. The black magic file sizes don’t justify the slight difference in quality especially when you’re just going to put it on a platform that compresses the heck out of it. Second, the autofocus and versatility of the s5iix have me reaching for it to create more often and with the advantage of taking stills on set

st_person_shooter
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Both look amazing. From what I see the BM has better highlight rolloff and overall a more "organic" look thats not as sharp as the s5. BM also seems a bit warmer with a magenta push slightly.

ChetaMeister
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Thanks Prime! I was just talking with someone about either or and because he’s a filmmaker, he suggested the BMCC. I informed him that I am a photographer first and will use the camera for both documentaries and interviews. He then suggested the S5iix. He added that you really can’t go wrong with either one.

tonyantoine
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New subscriber here. Love your approach. I have both too. I’m actually so glad they are somewhat similar. I put my Lumix on a gimbal and toss in my bag, then use a fully rigged BMCC6KFF for the bulk of the day. Matching the two cameras in post is super easy. But yes there are differences that I appreciate in both cameras. Both are excellent in their own regard!

relaxwithme
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I think if you want the absolute best possible image, and are ok with working for it, BMCC 6k is king. If you want a TON of convenience, and portability, S5II is easier to use. Truly we live in an age of wonders, when you could get either one of them for around 1600.

This is exactly the choice I have been looking at, BMCC 6k vs S5II vs ZV-E1

MaximoJoshua
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So close, but my instinct tells me the BM takes it overall. Second shot it appears there is a focusing error on the S5II causing the foreground to be out of focus (noticeably on the fence and lettering on your shirt)... the BM is focused correctly, but falls off nicely into the background. Thanks for putting this together.

AFlyer
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i’m confused as to why the highlights would look so different. the lumix highlights on the subject are totally warm instead of white, yet the rest of the image is really similar to bmpcc. so if the images are both white balanced, what’s causing the lumix to have such warm highlights? is basically there a highlight roll off/look baked in?

AustinPageofficial
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They both look good but the Cinema 6k pulls ahead of the S5ii. It seems to have more resolution even sharpness isn’t always needed but the strong BRAW codec simply has more information.

I get 5.9k from my S1 with BM Video Assist at 150MB/s which is good, but the Cinema 6k is 300-600MB/s. So one camera can be for longer shoots to reduce storage.

I’m keeping the Cinema 6k and knowing BM, they will add more features to the camera later, even more frame rate maybe.

MrJayclas
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Are you shooting in open gate on both cameras?

r.d.fodrek
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There are indications that the sensor on the BMCC 6k FF is the Sony IMX410, which is implemented in the Panasonic S1h, S1, S5, and S5x, Kinefinity MAVO LF, DJI Ronin 4D, Sigma FP, and Zcam F6. It's interesting that you can have so many different looks from the same sensor. Although, differently than the other companies, Blackmagic has the advantage of developing their own raw codec (Braw) and being an end-to-end color science company.

phrasalsyntax
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I love the Lumix highlight roll off I own two black Magics and they cannot compare

FILMS
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Does your luts are made to be applied straight to clear vlog footage to make it ready with one lut click apply? or they are just a color looks after self correction with conversion lut? I think to buy them. Did u use them also here for both s5ii and bmpc?

Arkadiusz
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I've been using Lumix cameras for several years, currently using a S1 (pre-ordered when announced) because I found it hard to justify the the upgrades to the S5II and expecting a new S1 generation. Meanwhile I bought a BMPCC4k, and at the end of last year a BMCC6K, although I can match pretty well the footage the Blackmagic cameras usually give a more three-dimensional effect and better color separation, you can also get easily the look you're after. But for run'n'gun the Lumix is hard to beat.

defektfilms
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If BM added AF to their machines, id cop in a heartbeat. BUT for me that shoots dancers...that shit is a hassle. The Lumix is stunning if ppl know what they're doing. But u really see peoples skill level if they know how to really pull out the best in gear tho in color grading.

Both look great to me.

j.zuberi
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Are you sure that the S5 has a micro 4/3 sensor ? I’m sure it’s Full Frame because I have both the OG S5 Full frame and GH5 (Micro 4/3) .

duane
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Hey can you try out the slo motion on it, I do a lot of music videos and I want to see how much it crops in the higher frame rates.

mesmerizevisual