Should CHRISTIANS use FORCE?

I discuss perspectives on the use of FORCE and VIOLENCE and give my take in today’s 10 min podcast episode.

[cfl]

Protect your country and against government

[FiloYappins]

I carry everywhere I go… that’s the level I’m willing to go to to protect me and mine. It’s not my place to judge if they wish to meet God.

[samwisethebrave]

The majority of the Apostles were armed. Jesus gave his highest blessing to a Roman Centurion, a man who commanded 100 men in battle.
The last command of Jesus before the Passion, was telling his disciples to sell their cloaks and arm themselves.
David, the man after God's own heart slew 10's of thousands of men in hand to hand combat. Gideon commanded 300 men in battle.
The Founding Fathers, after searching Scripture, decided violence was a necessary means(after all peaceful entreaties failed) to ensure freedom and liberty for all.

[joeyG]

The entire old testament is full of war guided by God, if an enemy stands to against you in violence you always do your absolute best to walk away, if they continue to attempt violation on you or your family, then I personally believe God won't only be okay with you protecting your family I believe he stands beside you and guides you..that's my thoughts...if you want God's thoughts ask him, because I may be wrong

[emmajeanwike]

I think it's OK to use force when you've tried everything you know to fix the problem, and nothing works. You have to protect your family and yourself. There are other circumstances when I think you should use force also. When you see someone being mistreated and they unable to fend for themselves for whatever reason . Also Ithink it's OK to defend your friends if they need help. I don't condone violence of any kind. But I do believe there are times when there's no other way to protect you and whomever needs help. May God wrap HIs loving arms around you and your family and keep you all heslthy and safe always. May God bless you and your family always. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen

[FiloYappins]

In Hebrew the commandment is “you shall not murder” Murder; the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Too many people living by a Gregorians teachings, the same ones who don’t follow the Bible and pray to idols. But hey, who am I to judge. That’s why we have discernment.

[timothysweenor]

What did Jesus do when faced with violence????

[georgeversluis]

At every opportunity?
But that's just me

[sweetpete]

I have spent a lot of time contemplating this question myself. At what point is more harm being done by not acting than acting? Still haven’t come to an answer yet, but would be interested in everyone’s thoughts!

[Livetoeat]

I don't think anybody should be guiding their human rights, safety, and fear of losing their life by the churches rules or guidelines. Human rights are all the same no matter race, creed, or color. We are all human first and whatever it takes to protect your life starting at the minimal attention to the maximum if you have to. Can't believe this is even a question. Also, giving a deity to physically help in the matters of the human life would be a huge mistake, as nothing would happen.

[doyleward]

Clearly in the protection of one's life lethal force is justified. but, we as Christians should attempt other routes before we take that route. I look at it this way You should always be the sheepdog. mindful of the flock. dependable caring but also be prepared to bear teeth when needed. I am part of my church's security team because churches need that now. and I don't see any reason why using lethal force to protect the congregation would be in any way wrong.

[darrylrice]

It’s funny no one here quoted the beatitudes. Instead, they went with their own feelings and decided they’re God approved

[simonstewart]

I have only come across your shorts tonight. Liked your videos about marriage and man hood and then this comes up👎
Noone can judge anything or any standard on religion becuase one vers contradicts the

[sillynin]

Only if you or your family are in grave danger.

[mystic.titan]

Would u rather die, or end someone's or something life and live?

[Candymantempting]

Read Doctrine and Covenants… the Lord has instructed the Saints on this matter.

D&C 98-

23 Now, I speak unto you concerning your families—if men will smite you, or your families, once, and ye bear it patiently and revile not against them, neither seek revenge, ye shall be rewarded;
24 But if ye bear it not patiently, it shall be accounted unto you as being meted out as a just measure unto you.
25 And again, if your enemy shall smite you the second time, and you revile not against your enemy, and bear it patiently, your reward shall be an hundred-fold.
26 And again, if he shall smite you the third time, and ye bear it patiently, your reward shall be doubled unto you four-fold;
27 And these three testimonies shall stand against your enemy if he repent not, and shall not be blotted out.
28 And now, verily I say unto you, if that enemy shall escape my vengeance, that he be not brought into judgment before me, then ye shall see to it that ye warn him in my name, that he come no more upon you, neither upon your family, even your children’s children unto the third and fourth generation.
29 And then, if he shall come upon you or your children, or your children’s children unto the third and fourth generation, I have delivered thine enemy into thine hands;
30 And then if thou wilt spare him, thou shalt be rewarded for thy righteousness; and also thy children and thy children’s children unto the third and fourth generation.
31 Nevertheless, thine enemy is in thine hands; and if thou rewardest him according to his works thou art justified; if he has sought thy life, and thy life is endangered by him, thine enemy is in thine hands and thou art justified.
32 Behold, this is the law I gave unto my servant Nephi, and thy fathers, Joseph, and Jacob, and Isaac, and Abraham, and all mine ancient prophets and apostles.
33 And again, this is the law that I gave unto mine ancients, that they should not go out unto battle against any nation, kindred, tongue, or people, save I, the Lord, commanded them.
34 And if any nation, tongue, or people should proclaim war against them, they should first lift a standard of peace unto that people, nation, or tongue;
35 And if that people did not accept the offering of peace, neither the second nor the third time, they should bring these testimonies before the Lord;
36 Then I, the Lord, would give unto them a commandment, and justify them in going out to battle against that nation, tongue, or people.
37 And I, the Lord, would fight their battles, and their children’s battles, and their children’s children’s, until they had avenged themselves on all their enemies, to the third and fourth generation.
38 Behold, this is an ensample unto all people, saith the Lord your God, for justification before me.
39 And again, verily I say unto you, if after thine enemy has come upon thee the first time, he repent and come unto thee praying thy forgiveness, thou shalt forgive him, and shalt hold it no more as a testimony against thine enemy—
40 And so on unto the second and third time; and as oft as thine enemy repenteth of the trespass wherewith he has trespassed against thee, thou shalt forgive him, until seventy times seven.
41 And if he trespass against thee and repent not the first time, nevertheless thou shalt forgive him.
42 And if he trespass against thee the second time, and repent not, nevertheless thou shalt forgive him.
43 And if he trespass against thee the third time, and repent not, thou shalt also forgive him.
44 But if he trespass against thee the fourth time thou shalt not forgive him, but shalt bring these testimonies before the Lord; and they shall not be blotted out until he repent and reward thee four-fold in all things wherewith he has trespassed against thee.
45 And if he do this, thou shalt forgive him with all thine heart; and if he do not this, I, the Lord, will avenge thee of thine enemy an hundred-fold;
46 And upon his children, and upon his children’s children of all them that hate me, unto the third and fourth generation.
47 But if the children shall repent, or the children’s children, and turn to the Lord their God, with all their hearts and with all their might, mind, and strength, and restore four-fold for all their trespasses wherewith they have trespassed, or wherewith their fathers have trespassed, or their fathers’ fathers, then thine indignation shall be turned away;
48 And vengeance shall no more come upon them, saith the Lord thy God, and their trespasses shall never be brought any more as a testimony before the Lord against them. Amen.

[jeffaylafferty]

Michael was given a sword for a reason.

[ChromeCobra]

Those crusades were a real defensive thing, huh?