How does weight affect range in an electric van? Testing the Renault Kangoo ZE33 electric van.

In this video, I drive the Renault Kangoo ZE33 electric van empty and measure the economy. I then add some weight in the back and drive the same roads and distance to see how the driving economy and therefore range is affected by the additional weight. During the journey I try to give some tips on how to get the best out of these electric vans and how to drive them efficiently to achieve the maximum range.
I'm driving a 2020 Renault Kangoo ZE Maxi with a 33kWh battery pack.
Its a long video, so I've added chapters to enable you to jump the relevant sections if you wish.

Timestamps/chapters
00:00 What is the van?
00:58 How test will be conducted
02:09 Van range
02:34 Stats before drive
04:27 Driving
05:45 Regen empty
09:44 The power meter
12:14 Road test road
14:20 Driving empty stats
17:34 Loading up
19:50 Driving loaded
25:38 Driving loaded stats
27:12 Conclusions

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[WhiteManInAVan]

As a long distance courier i do about 300-400 miles a day and often have to sleep in the van overnight (in winter means having the diesel heater going), so i need the range and more battery but great to see that the range isn't effected that much by the load. Once the range is improved, electric vans will defo be an option. But for the average van driver, this means its an easy switch. Great video.

[judebrown]

This was well worth your trouble Matt, really helpful to see real world figures. If you feel like it sometime it would be interesting to see the difference putting ladders on top would make...or if you have a rough idea from experience it would be great if you could mention it in one of your vids.
Hope you've had a great Christmas, wishing you a happy and prosperous New Year. 👍🥳

[MartinLV.]

thanks!
at the moment looking for such one crew van...

[jamesfleming]

Well done, I’ve learned more from you’re videos than any other. My wife has an id3, and I’ve just inherited her 2018 Kia soul ev.we have had the Kia for 3 years absolutely brilliant car. But I’m retired and I want a ev van we have 3 dogs but no way am I letting them in the car, although that was the idea. We have solar panels and a Tesla powerwall and a zappi charger. So we drive for free a lot off the time or cheaply the rest. This van would suit me as we have never charged anywhere except home, so the rapid charge not being available wouldn’t bother me. This is the thing it will suit me but I’m not saying everyone should have one, you have got to do you’re own research to see if it suits you’re needs. No point buying it then moaning that it’s no good.👍🇬🇧

[JorgeniLund]

Interesting result. I would have expected a much bigger difference between empty and loaded van. It will be interesting to follow your upcoming tests. Electrifying the transport sector is extremely important and has a major impact on our use of fossil fuels.

[markkunes]

In theory, if you travelled only in a straight line and had perfect regen, you would use more energy to get to a certain speed, but then you would get all that energy back again when you slowed down. So its not that surprising the increased mass didn't make you consume a lot more energy. Friction and going round corners will use extra energy though.

[stulop]

Driving in Eco I think is a bit of story. Our Kona doesn't seem to make any difference at all. It dulls the accelerator response, limiting total power available and lessens climate availability. If we use it in normal and are light with the climate and pedal we get similar results. In the end it's how you drive and how much heat you demand.

[davidsworld]

That was quiet impressive to take that much weight and not have very much loss in range for it. Yet 4.5 miles to a unit is quiet good verses some cars can not do that.
Was this the van you collected in the past video when you drove down to the coast and brought a van back It looks like it.

[dennisharvey]

Great to video this and put it out there, but I suspect the marketing budget of the petrol and diesel companies will drown this out, by more than 3dB!

[colinphillipson]

Reference the van law. I also recall another rule, if the manufactured van is derived from a car then it follows the car speed limits being a VDC, "Van derived Car". So the car came first and a van created from that same design.
From what I can find the Berlingo, Partner, Caddy, Doblo, and a Kangoo may fall into that VDC category.

[b_lumenkraft]

-10db is half the noise, +10db is double the noise. :)

[b_lumenkraft]

The guess-o-meter of your car is likely not linear. Meaning when you measure between 100 and 90 percent, you get a different (higher) range out of it than between 90 and 80 percent.
So odds are, the 4% is calculated even too hight. Might be even less difference actually.
This is not particularly surprising. When you accelerate 1t, you recoup (almost)1t. 2t gives you 2t in recoup back. This effect is linear.

[lookoutleo]

, can it charge on a 13a plug ? What other charge options does it have? What's it range with. Full battery, I'm thinking one of these or an env200 40kwh what you think? Poor mate having to wait 6 hours, thankyou for sharing your experience 4.7 miles per kwh is very good, would thought env would be about 3.5 or so?

[YorkshireBitsnBobs]

The things that still keep me away from electric vehicles are future access to charging points when number of EVs increase & future costs of electricity. I imagine that battery sizes will increase again before too long as they have already. (Seem to be 20+kh on older & newer up to 50kh)

[francisdoran]

Interesting test showing how with economical driving, even an un-aerodynamic van can be quite economical.
The figures don't make sense.
According to your OBD computer, you started with 96.1% charge on the 1st run, finishing with 79.3%, a difference of 16.8% and travelling a distance of 29.1 miles (dash reading)
Dividing 16.8% into 29.1miles gives 1.73 miles per % or a total range of 173 miles which really doesn't seem realistic.
16.8% of 33kw is 5.544kw, rounded up, I suppose, to 6kw on the dash.
The dash figure of 4.5 miles/kw seems more realistic to give a range of approx 148 miles from the 33kwh battery.

What's the most miles you've actually achieved without recharging from the van in normal driving, I wonder? or have you ever bothered doing a test like that?

Anyway, discovered your channel by accident and like the practical approach you take to how you test things.

[AndrewSheldon]

The problem with your test is the absence of hill climbing. It is hills that would make gravity more significant. So failed test really. Didn't even really go fast enough for wind drag. Great to hear about your toilet habits and social life though. That's my life I'll never get back.

[fabsolutions]

Spoiler alert, 4.5 miles per Kw unloaded, 4.3 miles per kw loaded. 4.4% difference. This video could have been the ultimate SHORT. It is interesting, but just a little tedious. Why not make it the ultimate SHORT. Probably break some records. Great topic.

[jenny-DD]

Where is your other hand? Your sick
FYI- I already have a BF