Goldmask & Dungeater Similarities | Elden Ring

In This Elden Ring Lore Short we show how Dungeater and Goldmask walk very similar paths, despite being very different characters - all tied together by their shared 'Sun' Imagery.

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[dolphinboi-playmonsterranc]

The rune of death kind of looks like a sun too, doesn't it? With the feet of the centipede being rays of the sun.

[A_real_Wizard]

Goldmask's rune makes everyone equal by granting blessings to All rather than just the Gods and the Golden Order.
Dung Eater's rune makes everyone equal by inflicting the Omen curse upon everyone, causing them all to be reborn as Omens and thus no one can look down on anyone else.

[farcr]

They're also the only two tarnished that are stated to be grace-given due to their visions, like actual divine inspiration - unlike gideon's yearning for knowledge, fia's religious desire for peace and hoarah's determination to reclaim he crown - they're the only two actual visionaries of the tarnished cast!

[TC-rczf]

George rr Martin is such a meanie for making things confusing

[TheWither]

Goldmask, wearer of the sun shaped mask, discovers brilliant golden ring

Dung Eater, wearer of the sun chain medallion, births a reviled curse

Its like the two endings of Solaire’s quest, in DS1, where in one he goes mad after being latched onto by a sunlight maggot, thinking hes finally found his own sun, succumbing to it and going hollow after death, vs his initial disappointment and near readiness to give up, but he pushes through to the kiln of the first flame, faces Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight, and acquires the soul of light, linking the flame in his time, finding his own sun.

There are many parallels, the conceit in thinking theyve solved their problem with dungy and maggot, leading to death, the rune amounting to perpetuating the status quo but this time everyone is cursed, while solaire thinks his quest is complete but is mad and dies so nothing really changes, and his flame goes unkindled. Goldmask discovers his order is founded on a lie, but makes it to the end and discovers a brilliant rune in the process, sacrificing his life to make things better, but ultimately to little avail, as the cycle will simply go on, while solaire faces gwyn, links the flame, sacrificing himself to make things better, but ultimately perpetuates the sinful cycle gwyn started with his first sin.

To tie it all up, they all share one peculiar symbol:
The Sun.

[rxblessed]

Made me think of something:

If humans (Dungeater, Fia, and Goldmask) could produce a Rune that could alter the fate of the world, could that provide an explanation for the creation of Radagon’s Rune (the Lattice shaped Rune)?

Also interesting note is that Radagon’s Scarseal states it is an Elden Rune, not a Great Rune. Could it be that a human who becomes Elden Lord is capable of producing a Rune that does not require their death? Kind of a ramble but it is interesting how Runes are made in Elden Ring

[farkrits]

Damn, Solaire isn't doing too well these days.

[TheLorecaller]

To be honest, I think we should be asking more questions about the sun in this world. We already know that stars are a bit wacky and concerning, and that amber stars are special in some way. But I feel likes no one discusses how one star is far closer than all the others… and how it looks far more amber than blue.

Not to mention the symbolism with trees and sunlight. I think you could even argue that Erdtrees require sunlight, given how the minor erdtree growing closest to its parent is dead (like a sapling that perished in its parent’s shade). Plus, in our world, the sun is the origin of all life. Sounds a lot like the greater will tbh.

Ranni’s plan to cut off the greater will also involves an eternal night. In other words, the key to blocking the greater will’s influence doesn’t have anything to do with the erdtree, at least not directly. It’s essentially a cosmic battle, and the sun — maybe the erdtree’s sustaining source — seems to be its main target.

You could also probably explain the eclipse a lot more easily by connecting the sun with the greater will. Maybe the sun is even the “Elden Star” the greater will sent long ago. I guess the only wrench in this theory is the “sun realm shield, ” which describes how the sun was clearly important to a pre-erdtree civilisation. But we don’t really know when the Elden Star and Elden Beast arrived. Maybe there was even an age of more direct rule by the greater will, where the sun itself rather than a secondary light source was its main symbol.

At any rate, my specific theories are probably a bit too speculative and unsubstantiated. But I think it’s safe to say it’s weird how little the sun is mentioned (e.g. in comparison to the moon and stars) — especially considering its prominence in the sky. By all accounts, it should be incredibly important to Elden Ring’s cosmology. But it’s almost like something wants it to be forgotten — or maybe, it wants that for itself.

“The erdtree is the source of all light and life. Do not worry about that yellow orb behind the curtain.”

[sergentboucherie]

I’m surprised that this short video is not 37 minutes long

[Nightskyunceasing]

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BEGIIIIN

[CNNBlackmailSupport]

That isnt a sun on The Dung Eater's armor, its a Smiling Butthole.

[matiasluukkanen]

Most shocking thing in Elden Ring is that some people watched the Dung Eater and were unironically like; "This is it, the Good Ending."

Gives me conniptions.

[katch]

Goldmasks face is not the sun. It's the shining radiance of order.

[jamesputterlik]

I've always looked at the Dung Eater as a corrupted version of Solaire from Dark Souls. Instead of showing up to aid and guide you during hard times, he shows up to murder and desecrate you.

[FunkyDeleriousPriest]

It's worth noting that Dung Eater's ring is made of horns, and the same can be said about the rays of sunlight around his black sun.

[RickyGVM]

we know now that the greater will was basically a bunch of mumbo jumbo the fingers werent actually commicating with anything

[bonkaddicct]

WAIT A MINUTE THE MEDALLION DUNGEATER HAS LOOKS LIKE THE FACES OF THE GIANT FURNACES IN THE DLC!!!

maybe that has some kind of significance.

[jtkane]

I cannot hear the word symbology without going back to Agent Smecker flipping out in Boondock Saints.

[minerman]

My brain cannot process hearing SmoughTown voice for only a one minute interval; it intuitively expects more.

[tacoater]

"subscribe for longer videos" wins as the understatement of the year and it's still January