Jay Dyer DESTROYS Natural Theology

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Great Video. Natural Theology is not Orthodox.

MaximusOrthodox
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Mean-man; therfore wrong 😡! -feels "logic"

aquavitae
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Man I love his debate review videos! They had a bigger influence on my conversion than his actual debates. BLOW THAT HORN TRENT!

kylegolden
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If rhetorical devices are acceptable in debates, why not natural theology? Why not just pivot into TAG from something like the efficient cause argument? Seems easy. If I'm dealing with a skeptic I'd sooner not use natural theology at all, but if you're taking to a naive empiricist, why not use it?

tfunknationtown
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I appreciate jay’s content, but creating stuff like this is a sure way to get other christians upset. It also seems prideful.
Aquinas is one of the most influential philosophers ever. “Abu Aquinas” is a caricature. Please consider his writings on the islamic prophet. You’ll see that “abu aquinas” is the type of caricature the new atheists often commit.
Again, nothing against Jay. Aquina’s mission was explicitly the demonstration of divinity INDEPENDENT of scripture. He did this PRIOR to the Humean denial of everything.
I am interested in debate amongst christians, but flat out ridiculing aquinas in this fashion is not a very christian way of going about things.

St paul, when arguing in athens against the epicurians and stoics states that they worship the so called “unknown god” in whom “we live and have our being”. He wasn’t ridiculing the pagans. He was offering them the revelation as a way to complete / renew their knowledge.

angelferreira
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This video makes no sense. When you look up natural theology, it's knowing God exists by nature. That is the energy of God. Idk what Trent is on.

perfectlambministry.
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Is natural theology the idea that you can find the true God from pure logic?

ThomasB-vg
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He's mean, all those big werds, refuting everybody all the time. Love and light bro, oh yeah, chop the ween and recycle to save da earf. Bigot.

johnnyleach