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01:45 Linux Torvalds talks Rust and AI
04:11 Rust+Linux drama makes maintainer leave
06:12 BcacheFS is stirring up some drama
08:33 FreeBSD receives 680K euros
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Linux Torvalds talks Rust and AI

Rust+Linux drama makes maintainer leave

BcacheFS is stirring up some drama

FreeBSD receives 680K euros

KDE gets a "asking for donations" notification

Gaming: new Linux console, the Deck is still a hit
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BcasheFS sounds interesting, and guy is definetively talented, but if you're making Linux kernel code, follow Linux kernel rules.

aqua_cat_
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If my tax dollars can go to buying microsoft licenses, it should go towards free software projects

leonidas
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I'm proud that my government appreciates the value of Open Source :)
More countroes should donate to those projects :)

skorp
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Something interesting about Germany funding open source is you could consider open source a public good (so it's nonexcludable and nonrivalrous, for example a public road is a public good), which are the good governments are best at compared to markets, mainly because public goods are hard to make a profit on (not impossible, but definitely harder).

ananon
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KDE's notification is a genuinely good idea. It's a system notif, is only once a year, dismisses easily, and has a great message to get it

DryPaperHammerBro
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I support KDE with this decision. KDE handles a lot of projects, and those projects cost money.
This donation notification seems like a very unintrusive way to do it. I think this is the best way they could have implemented this.

IAmTerminallyBored
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5:51 Well, RedoxOS is basically that. A POSIX-compliant OS written entirely in Rust, even with a Rust implementation of libc for code compatibility with Linux.

Lampe
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I'm not a dev, but the bcacefs story sounds bad. After what happened with xz, anyone appearing like they're trying to rush code being published sounds sus.

middle_pickup
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Yes, donations is sadly a big problem in Open Source. We got already big security trouble because of missing donations to the xz developer. Impossible to code unpaid in spare time only on such a critical source. Also the project I am helping coding a bit highly needs donations. The school timetabling tool is used by many thousand schools, but donations are much too low, even if we ask for donations :-( The main author is working full time on this job. But he is forced to life from walfare only. Sadly most Linux users don't understand that problem, they always think everything is for free. They forgot that the authors must pay flat, meal, ... and sometimes maybe want to have an ice cream.

Volker-Dirr
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I can't wait to see Brodie Robertson review the Bcachefs drama

muizzsiddique
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A while ago I tried supporting KDE by buying some merch on their official store, but I immediately gave up because shipping to Europe costed more than the entirety of my cart.

EricchiYukia
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I hope next year there will be a fully functional PC version of Steam OS. I will then use it instead of the aging win 10.

lukashavel
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I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, I have no grounds for this. But. I won't be surprised if malicious code is later found in those bcachefs patches, as it was already the case in the XZ library. The desire to implement patches at the last minute without careful verification by any means looks very suspicious.

kote
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Rust is a perfectly fine language for systems development. That being said, outside of unsafe Rust anyway, it's very, very, *very* different from C. I can see why C developers, some of whom have been coding in C for three or more decades, aren't enthusiastic about adopting it. My experience as someone with nearly thirty years in the field is that you really have to throw all your preconceptions of how a programming language "should" be structured out the door when approaching Rust. That doesn't make Rust a bad language, but it does make it intimidating to many people when they first start learning about it. The longer you've been in any field, the less appealing starting over from scratch generally feels.

MSThalamus-gjoi
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Super glad to see that the Deck still sells that well. Didn't expect that.
We need to bring Linux to the masses!

tdome
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You have missed a massive chunk of the Rust-Linux drama.
Asahi lina has made a post on mastadon, telling how some linux devs are actively fighting and sabatoging rust's inclusion, actively ignoring bad docs, bad code, and ignoring undefined behaviors, hidden lifetime requirments etc.

This maintainer didnt leave on "should rust be in linux" they left because some linux devs are going "rust bad"

thegoldenatlas
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FreeBSD should have received 666K euro, but it is better, that they have received more :)

P.S. we should really donate to FOSS projects we use.
P.P.S. why installing FreeBSD in QEMU is much harder than on VirtualBox?

MrAlexFortis
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this is by far i think your best episode of the weekly linux and open source news. your conversations felt really engaging and the graphics you showed felt very detailed. i enjoyed it a lot and learned a lot, thank you for your hard work!

iamnama
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It's kinda of a bummer to hear not Tesla in the funding list for KDE. They use the QT framework and KDE to run millions of cars and don't pay a dime for that?

RubenKelevra
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Kde s notification is honestly a good idea in my opinion. Asking users to donate is not a bad thing. Software development takes time and effort and developers getting some donations at least is expected. Even from individual users who benefit from the OS.

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