Is Engineering better in WOTLK Classic?

Did you forget any or all of these changes which will come in wrath of the lich king classic? I am personally excited about a lot of these! Wotlk will probably bring changes you forgot even if these aren’t them! Is Engineering better in WOTLK Classic?

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[wrele]

With engineering you can also use the auction house bot in Dalaran. I saw that you forgot to mention that and I feel like it's a pretty important thing to mention.

[alistairbolden]

Engi is the reason pretty much all min max horde side dps should be a troll. You pop potion of speed and your gloves at the same time to give you a very nice 850 extra haste, you think hit bezerking taking that 850 adding it to how ever much you have on gear and getting 20% extra. Now I here you say its only for 10 seconds but its not. build 5 combat points within that 10 secconds of bezerking np then snap shot your much higher than normal attack speed onto blade flurry, it gives you % of your attack speed at the time you use it extra for the duration, then you Slice nd Dice doing the same thing again. This way not only are you getting insane damage and attack speed at the very start of the fight but much higher attack speed than normal for the the next 40ish seconds via a much strong SnD.

Here is the math assume you have 250 haste from gear 250+850=1100+20%=1320. That is gear + potion of speed + hyperspeed + troll bezerking. 1320 = 40% extra attack speed, so your attack speed will become 140% for the 10 seconds bezerking lasts, blade flurry on top makes your attack speed 168%. Then you take that 168% and add 40% from SnD = 168+71 = Your new attack speed is 239% for the couple seconds left on the various haste buffs. More importantly you get to keep a slice and dice thats giving you 71% attack speed for the next 45 seconds.
If you happen to get both Bezerking weapon enchants proc before you slice and sice that is another 1000 haste so 2320=73% extra base attack speed meaning you would have 173% then 20% from Blood Frenzy making 212, then SnD 40% = 297% attack speed total during all buffs, but again more importantly a 45 second SnD giving you a massive +85% attack speed. Having such massive attack speed also effects PPM making your sword/axe procs in combat, the Berzerking weapon enchant and a (large amount of extra energy if Assasination), both specs get a lot of extra white damage and poison procs.
TLDR: Play troll its much higher dps than Orc, stack all haste buffs first then use flat attack speed buffs ontop. It is because of the SnD snapshot that pre bis rogues can out damage full t7 of any other class.
This makes sub 50 seconds and 7minet fights ideal as this same combo lines up perfectly 6minets into the fight. Never hold your cooldowns, You should be using potion of speed/hyperspeed gloves/blade flurry every 2min and Bezerking/AR every 3min.
They line up at the start and 6min in.
Ofc this is only important if you want to be top 99% in the logs. Or to make all the other dps in the raid feel bad about not deciding to roll rogue.
The only problem doing this is you must tricks of the trade the tank or you will aggro for sure. You start the fight with potion of speed as you run in and tricks on the tank, then begin your ss/muti spam and use macro to turn on the other buffs.

You or another rogue with better gear doing the same thing should always hystria 30% more physical damage when you have 300% attack speed is sick, like wize for even higher attack speed take a shaman in your raid and make sure his wind fury totem is next to you by the time you bladefurry.

[gary]

I simmed the gloves enchant against blacksmithing gem sockets using rare gems. Blacksmithing is a LOT better. Given haste is my lowest weighted stat. Results may vary depending on spec, but not 100% correct for everyone. This difference will grow when we have access to epic gems.

[lmgaming]

Love your content, you are so chilled and explain things well, best guides I've found tbh! thanks for the upload :)

[RoliRegenbogen]

Would have been nice to have a comparison between the engineering enchants with casual enchants

[alfavhunter]

Is there any real reason to be gnomish engineering in wotlk? Goblin seems to be the only one with a new item.

[Redbaron_Gaming]

Having a real hard time trying to justify the amount of pure G I'll lose having herbing on my druid.

I know I can have it on an alt, but flight form and herbing goes together like beer and gear.

[mono_vt]

Heh this brings me back. Having the rocket boots backfire during prog never failed to generate a few giggles. Was also a Paladin so it was necessary.

[greatvalue]

engineering is BIS for not dropping defile on your raid. Theres dozens of mechanics you can avoid/ignore with boots. rocket boots are why everyone has engineering. that is the main reason. Pair it with Jewlcrafting or blacksmithing for best stats.(its not that big of a deal) your second profession can be anything. This is coming from someone many years of wotlk private server experience, and i played wotlk during retail. Most guilds have engineering as mandatory for high end raiding.

[repptorr]

Love it, i think about a wotlk topic and you make a video about it<3 now im thinking about arena comp tier list haha :D

[genestarwind]

340 * 12/60 = 68 haste from the glove tinker.

Technically it will average to be more, because you will likely use it early in the fight.

[Petronzinator]

Amazing video dude. Can you talk about the differences between Goblin and Gnomish Engineering in WOTLK?

[aksolomun]

Using bombs and gadgets cancels druid's forms in wotlk? And what about tbc?

[MrGlennJohnsen]

Don't underestimate the snap threat value of Engineering Explosives for tanks, especially for picking up adds.

[Intelligenkeit]

how is the combination of tailor and engeneering? i have the feeling tailoring closes the holes that engeneering brings

[TastyScotch]

Tbc eng for the chicken. Glad to see i can just keep lvling eng in wrath 😎

[HippioKass]

How is engi not as good for tanks, I mean I realize threat is pretty easy to hold in wrath, but with bombs and sappers no one in the world is catching you, and for non pallies it gives you some solid aoe threat options

[DreddE]

as UHDK pvp youre using Jwc and Tailor for snapshot gargoyle

[JamesBond-ecst]

Which one to pick gnomish or goblin engineering?

[cfalletta]

I plan on going blacksmithing/engineering on my h paly but I think I’m going to lvl enchanting/engineering until I can lvl my alts to 80 that have mining/enchanting while there will be a lot of dungeon grinding enchanting is just super good for that