WHAT A Wire-Pulling MESS (Garage Lighting Electrical)

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[garyhastings]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like their videos have become even more "talky" than they used to be. I didn't think that was possible.

[birthdays]

Big mistake.


By daisy chaining outlets or switches you run the whole circuit THROUGH each outlet. Weak.


Far better to wire nut power-in and power-out together and then provide pig tails to separate outlets. Thus power and neutral need not travel THROUGH each outlet to the rest of the circuit. So when/if individual outlet fails, it does not effect the whole circuit.


Components within individual outlets and/or switches are not adequate to carry the WHOLE amount of electricity/HEAT running through the whole circuit at all times. Your method burdens EACH outlet to carry ALL energy that ever goes through the WHOLE circuit ALWAYS. Much more likely to overheat outlets and switches causing failure over time.

[terrancethalman]

Out of a 28 minute video you showed 5 minutes worth of work man i like you guys but you have gotten to where you talk all the time and dont show any progress

[michiganengineer]

I don't believe that dual outlet rig you were showing would pass an inspection in Michigan at least. Pigtails for hot, neutral and ground from _both_ outlet units then wire nuts to connect to the source and down stream.

[jeffreyvanderklip]

Just to let you know that little hole on the side of the Klien wire strippers are what is used to make the eye loop.

[MrCelticatheart]

Hey sorry I had to chime in being an electrician! Jesse I give you props for tryin however you are incorrect on wiring the pairs of outlets, code says you SHALL NOT use the device to junction wires. This being said you have to pigtail all hots and neutrals, but you can use the same bare wire to bend in around the ground screws and terminate to the line side of the circuit with a wirenut. I suppose if you want to take the hots and neutrals and do the same thing with one piece of wire it would comply with code. The way it was explained to me is that you can run power from terminal to terminal on the same device so the tap between the outlets carry the power from one terminal to the other outlet. As far as your code question about how many wires you can run in one hole, it has to do with derating and wires in a raceway. Yes consecutive holes drilled in framing are considered a conduit or raceway, unless it is only 2 foot long then pull as many as you want without restriction. The only 3 wire with ground in a 3 way or 4 way switch system is between the switches themselves. The two hot conductors used between switches are called travelers. If you run power on the white wire you must color it with a hot color. However the newer rule of there Must be a neutral at each switch defeats this now for the most part! The reason is that so many homes are now being wired with auto or lighted switches and you can't used the ground wire for unused power for these type switches! They do make 4 wire with ground now as well. Btw you must use Listed components usually by underwriter laboratories unless you get it approved in writing by the AHJ! so no making your own light fixtures or boxes etc! I can give you a tip as well it is far easier to unspool wire when laying on the floor if you pull coils from the roll and keep them together and turn them in your hand as you walk them out the right distance it will be much straighter. Oh another thing there is a hole on both sides of every wire stripper those are there to bend hooks on the ends of wires for outlets and switches. you will be able to bend them tighter to fit the screws. Love your videos! hope the little one is well!

[MrXccu]

twist the wire around the terminal in a clockwise direction, to increase the chances of a better connection.

[Philhoppermiller]

Run your lights on 14 gauge wires, Run your outlets on 12 gauge wires. That will save you a hundred bucks. And 18 outlets on one circuit will be unsafe.

[jasgoon]

you should pigtail your hot(black) in the box and have two separate wires going to each outlet, otherwise you're relying on the device, and that is a no no. devices fail.

[cjemhardt]

Minor question, appears you are knocking out the tab on the back of the boxes to run the Romex in. Not positive but isn’t that tab the built in cable clamp that retains the wires in the box? Check with your electrician as you want to pass your inspection.

[heatherphelps]

Why would anyone need that many outlets in the garage? More of Jessie going on and on and on and on and my brain hears blah, ah, blah, blah, blah!

[djramm]

Myself and 10 others have heard the beautiful angelic sounds of a tiny person this brings joy to our hearts; and we're busting to meet that tiny person

[NickDangerThirdGuy]

Best practice is to pigtail All connections separately. That way the failure of one device will not cause both devices to fail. Also it is also best practice to turn all receptacles ground up, this will prevent accidentally bridging the hot and neutral prongs on the plug if something falls on it when it is partially inserted. ( or half pulled out as is often the case).

[michaelyankasky]

sorry i have a hard time watching someone teach the wrong way to do something (not code compliant) yes it works but not NEC compliant

[SeanLeonDrumz]

Never put outlets, lights etc.. in series. If one goes out the rest down the line go out. Put anything that you can in parallel.

[mavos]

I’m the U.K. we run a “duty to care” policy in the workplace and you would not be allowed to stand on the ladder like that.
Most fatalities occur from heights of around 4ft because people become complacent.
Get the right size ladder!
The top of your step ladder should not be any lower than your waist.

[bartbley]

For me a major wiring job I always got a Certified professional for insurance reasons . The cost was more and the job was done quickly . One could though rest easy knowing things were done right to code . Just one opinion

[finieclimber]

Pro-tip when pulling wire on a run pull all the wire for the run though the first box then make a small loop enough to put connect both sides to then pull the rest to the next box and so on and not cutting and guessing how much each time from one box to the next to. it is more efficient and if you leave enough then you can use the extra at each box as your jumper wire. Some municipalities do not allow the use of the bar on the side of the of the outlet to act as a jumper and want you to use a wire for that jumper so you splice 3 or 4 wires to go to each outlet independently, as well as wiring across the two outlets (hot on one and common on the other and jumpers in between). They may prefer hot and common to one outlet then jumper from that outlet to the second. so make sure you look at the code. There also may be different wire types for lighting and outlets as well as different circuit requirements so outlets on one and lighting on another. Limits to number of outlets on a line based on function like 14 outlets on a garage space might be a little much.

[griz]

I don't think anyone has brought this up yet, but why so many outlets on one circuit. I know code is fine to put 10 outlets on 20 amp. But as much stuff as you charge and the distances you run your extension cords you might consider dropping that to 5 or 6

[TrekEveryday]

Should have used pigtails on the outlets, daisy chaining them is not the best way to do it especially in a garage that will see higher loads.