Give Me an Answer - If God is So Loving, Why Cant We All Just Go To Heaven?

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Program 0422 ................... - If God Is Loving... - Bad Thing Happen - Creation History ..............
Recorded at Texas State University - October 2021.

The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.

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In regards to the first question, if God created us in heaven to begin with, we wouldn't be able to experience evil or be tempted by sin, so it would be a sort of "limited free will". It would be kind of like a king sheltering a princess in the castle her whole life, giving her all the spoils and riches and not letting her step out into the rest of the world and experience it (including potential suffering). On the other hand, when we have full free will on Earth and still fully choose to obey and be with God, ultimately joining Him in heaven, then He will know that we truly love Him and want to spend eternity with Him. He can't force us into heaven with Him against our will. It's not how true love works! Just thinking out loud here, any thoughts/feedback will be appreciated! God bless :)

bryant
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I don’t think I’ll ever meet Cliffe in this finite world but I can’t wait to meet him in heaven

tankercrewchief
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I want to answer the woman who asks "For all the bad stuff that goes on, why can't God get rid of it" with a quote I once heard. I don't know if Cliffe will answer this way, cuz i paused it. However, I love this quote. The quote basically goes, "If you ask why God won't get rid of all the evil of the world, I will ask you what if he started with you?" I love that quote because We have all taken part in some form of evil at one point or another. If he takes away the evil, that includes you. He has promised to come remove the evil from the world one day, but that is the end of the world....

mindofmike
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Faith without works is dead but I have found that as i increase my faith my works increase naturally as my relationship builds the works are usually proof that your faith is growing.

legatobluesummers
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If I spent my whole life rejecting God, why would He, when I die, force me to be with Him? You can see His Love even in His righteous judgment! Thanks so much, Cliffe for another great video!

cjohnson
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Man I could listen to him for hours. His personality, his realistic approach to questions of people younger and older, his sense of humor is very funny, his humility and relatable attitude are incredible, his enthusiasm towards what is going on in the world today. No matter what he is talking about or how dark it could be, I feel this Aura coming off of him that his point has a bigger meaning and it’s exactly what God calls us to do. God bless this man and I am so glad I am in a time period where I could hear and Lord willing meet this guy one day. This man is one of the many examples of God’s greatness and I pray that more people learn from this and be led to God. Thank you Sir, Amen

machno.
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I watched cliffs videos 4 years ago and through the HolySpirit I understood How God expresses himself to us. I Thank the Lord for your life cliff. God bless….

ChristTopics
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Cliff helped me find Jesus and Jesus has changed my life. Thank you Cliff! You've changed my life.

StriderWilco
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Why not put us in Heaven first? And THEN let us decide if we want to follow God? That was tried…with angelic beings, including Satan, and their rebellion leaves no room for repentance. I’d rather be able to repent and find that God’s justice was fulfilled on the cross for my sin.

geeelwesley
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Such a blessing to have such an articulate person like Cliffe shine the light on so much darkness.

tomjarjar
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1:13 Very hard question
1:58 If Love is contractual, it’s lessened; when you are given the choice and reject conditions to love, Lord That’s Good,
That’s Loving With All Your Heart ♥️ meeting Love with Love

2:43 Free Choice
3:00 Comfort and Convenience

4:50 In God’s Presence.
5:27 Removing myself from God’s Presence

5:40 Why did God not create all people in Heaven automatically?

*We’re All Born Broken*
6:00 Consequences, Ripple effects
Responsibility & Irresponsibility reach throughout (the connective stems, leaves, roots of Our shared History, our Familial History, From Adam & Eve to Me)

6:36 The Grace of God is The Glue.

6:52 There are consequences to your Free Decision (meaningful consequences).

8:14 Evil will lose, because God has spoken.

8:39 But… Why not Create All of Humanity in Heaven already?

9:02 Adam and Eve and Sin (is there Free Will in Heaven?)

9:10 Adam and Eve rebelled against God. The Fall Affected All of Humanity, The Fall Impacted All of Mankind.

10:20 Willing to be without God vs
10:48 Willing to be with God. Reconciliation. Turning back to God.

11:07 *If God is such a Good God, Why Does He Allow Bad Stuff Happen?*
• Because Evil is A Free Decision

11:32 Free Will, Personhood, The Ability to Love ❤️

12:51 A Changed Heart ♥️

13:25 Hell is The Destruction of Evil.

13:45 (Nihilism) No God - Life is Trivial

14:14 God Made Man, Man Has Innate (Inborn) Value.

God - Life & Our Lives are utmost important, we are given Dominion on Earth, tasked with not messing it up even though we mess it up.

14:46 Intellectually Consistent Nihilism.

15:58 No God = It’s All Meaningless.
16:23 There is a Difference between Stepping on a cockroach and stepping on a Newborn Baby. God Exists also means There is a difference between stepping on a bug and stepping on a baby.

Innate Human Valuable

17:36
We’re Human Beings
We Are Created In God’s Image
Humanity is Higher in value than Bugs

19:17 Why Christianity & Not Norse Mythology or Buddhism?
Jesus Rose From The Dead ☦️

21:00
Myth to communicate Truth compared to
This Really Happened, it is True, it is a fact.

23:00
• Gospels are Historical,
• Psalms are Hymns, Poetic Hymns
• Book of Revelation is Apocalyptic

23:50 Why are you Agnostic?
• It seems like life formed from random probability.

25:05 Math Probability 🧮
25:25 I cannot treat people as Mathematical Formulas.

25:45 Looking for Good 👍🏼 Character, Relationship, Trusting a Person ❤️🙏🏼
+ Integrity
+ Honesty
+ Empathy
+ Love of Friends
+ Caring + True Friend
+ Like Family to Me

27:24 People are important,
+ Sons + Daughters
+ Fathers + Mothers

thattimestampguy
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"If you're experience contradicts what you believe, don't you think you got a problem with what you believe"
Man I'm gonna remember and use that! Excellent and powerful!

allegory
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The real tragedy in life is not that God refuses to reveal himself to humanity, but that, God indeed has revealed himself to humanity but people still chose to go their own way.

"Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you".
~ James 4:8

GraftedOliveBranch
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Cliffs is a great man, and a giant among spiritual leaders today.

elagace
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Going to Heaven would mean spending an eternity in Gods presence. If someone spends their whole life rejecting God, it seems pretty obvious they wouldn't want to go to Heaven, since that would mean being with the God they rejected. And God is to loving to force people into his presence. He gave us a free will to choose for ourselves.
That's how I see it anyway.

thMusketeer
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13:26 train begins honking when Cliff mentioning the 2nd coming. Trumpets blaring ❤

christiancabrera
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We are desperately wicked( or dead in our sins). Of our own volition, we will never ever choose God to be our friend.
This is why God chooses us before we choose him, as his word states.

borg
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Many people don't have the discipline of dialogue! Cliffe does a terrific job with these guys - he has so much patience.

alinucalinuc
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Amen.
Life is the journey, Paradise is the destination, Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

samiaziz
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The most loving thing God can do is ensure that our security is tied to His perfection through choosing Him over what is not perfect; namely Himself.

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