How Bad Is The Tiger II?

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When Gaijin uptiered the 76 Sherman Jumbo, they said it was outperforming even the Tiger II. I and a lot of other players thought this was nonsense, but some players rallied behind the statement. They said the King Tiger isn't actually that great in War Thunder. I decided to see just how it performs in the current BR climate for myself.

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The jumbo and tiger are comparable in close quarters situations I guess, but on the big open field maps (which get more common in higher brs) the tiger 2 has a significant advantage. The jumbo has to hit a small weak spot on the turret face from 1000 meters, but the tiger just has to hit some part of the jumbo. Kursk becomes unplayable.

joegromlowicz
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I enjoyed the tiger 2
The only issue I had with it was fighting against players that knew how to aim, or had heat.

idiom
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Pretty interesting results. Now I'm more convinced that 6.3 gets more downtiers than 6.7 or 5.3-5.7. And I totally agree with you about the reliability of German teammates as they often can't assert proper map control and let the enemy push through when they normally shouldn't be able to. I often end up outnumbered 3 to 1 when playing the 6.7 king Tiger.

rebelblade
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Spook: *Plays Tiger II in a way that utilizes its strength and does well*

German Mains: *Suprised Pikachu face*

Halorulez
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Honestly the teammate thing I feel is true, but at the same time it always seems like teammates are just not all there. You've got the guys who only spawn in 1 vehicle, or your team wins the initial engagement, gets all the zones and then walks into the enemy spawns and gets killed there because of spawn protection.

firstnamelastname
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I fell like every low tier German player wants to be the main character where they hold off the entire allied assault and then die :(

spaace.
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"But our stats dont lie" - War Thunder Dev Team

realSarge
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can you made a video on "how bad was the M1128 Stryker MGS"? I've heard it's pretty horrible in real life. I would love to see that video! Thank you for the amazing content Spookston! Always appreciated!

Tomathey
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5.7 KD on War Thunder is insane, impressive

zazzyboy
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I think the reason why the Tiger 2 is rated to be so bad, and yes, I have played it, its that uptiers which happened quite frequently for me and my friends was absolute hell. On more then 10 cases, we attempted to fight M60s with no effect, however, the M60s chemical rounds would go straight through any surface of the tank. This goes for most MBTs and even the T44.

jillfulton
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I remember when I first unlocked the Tiger II p, and the absolute amazement I felt when I reversed in it. The speed was amazing, allowing me to retreat if I needed too, unlike the earlier slower Tigers/Panthers. War Thunder truly became a point and click adventure in that thing. Fast forward to today and the most I can do in it is hide somewhere because my team got wiped within 4 minutes of the match starting. And the leopard one having been moved down to 7.3 didn't help with getting good match making.

nogamesnofame
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A, so Gaijin had been able to make an authentic experience of having Painteryouth allies in your team? Cool.

TheArklyte
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Huh. I never saw anyone say that the tiger 2p was bad. I personally don't have fun its it (I like the h) but it's a good tank. What I saw on the forums was a universal condemnation of Gaijin and German mains.

troutwarrior
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The issue with the 2H is that once you hit 6.7, full up tiers get you to 7.7 where HEAT is common. At 6.3 going to 7.3 you don't have as good HEAT shells against you, and you also face more AP shells.
The 2P also has better turret sides at a shallower angle than the 2H meaning you get a rare bounce off them where it would pen a 2H.

Woofdeath
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As a french main, except when playing the b1s or the arl 44, i'm surprised when my armor is working so i don't understand how a tank that is very hard to pen from the front and still has one the best perfoming cannon at its BR can be bad.
You can't expect to bounce evrything at less than a 100 meters where shells have all their kinetic energy and you can easily aim for weak spots and still be accurate.

nicolaspeigne
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The Tiger II was a waste of steel in real life. In War Thunder it's got a lot of potential, people just don't know how to play it cause they jizzed at a WWII documentary that called all German tanks "Unstoppable killing machines" and don't get me started on the teams you get paired up with

Thunderbolt__Siren
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I laughed at the part where patrick said it's ok you can go when you feel like it

zeferinoresendiz
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Tiger II (P): love it and a very good tank
Tiger II (H): starts game, get destroyed without doing anything. And the repair cost... god NO.

Netto
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0:38 I love how gaijin thinks it's OK for a tiger II to fight alongside a leopard

fullsetsunk
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honestly I can never rely on German teammates
mainly bc they are clueless or do not look at the map
though at the same time I usually aggressively push the enemy team
which allows me to get kills, but as a result I will occasionally get caught out

allenliu