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Nikon should bring RED's image over to the Z9II that rivals the OG Komodo and then add Nikon AF into RED Cine FF global shutter, etc.

contentm
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It will be called the ZR 1 and if it has Nikon AF with RedRaw it will be King.

contentm
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I would sell all my canon gear if I see red raw in Nikon mirrorless

javierensenat
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Let’s not forget Red has codecs that give them a certain look that will most certainly be migrated over to the newer z cameras . It’s exciting times for the future 👍🏼

michaelmalodrums
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Heyday of the '60s, '70s *and* '80s, actually. Nikon was basically dominant (at least in pro 35mm circles) for about 30 years.

RobertFalconer
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To be honest, I expect Nikon to release a high-end, video-first camera (like A7S3, for example) in the near future. Something like Z63's big brother, but even more focused on video. Z92 and Z82 are going to benefit from that RED acquisition, but I don't know how much since I believe Nikon started the development of those even before acquiring RED. Nikon always knew how to get the most out of sensors they were using, so I really cannot wait to see what's going to happen next. I do hope they will release a strong APSC camera, something like the D500 back in the day.

urosjovanovic
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As a new guy trying to decide which ecosystem to get into, you make a good point for Nikon. Given that Red's technology will come to Nikon why not jump into that ecosystem knowing that you will end up some of the best tech on the planet for cameras. And you have 3rd party lenses that Canon doesn't. And Red's stuff is better than Sony sensors. Hard to not like Nikon knowing all of this when jumping into a camera ecosystem as a new user. Something to keep an eye on. Thanks for the information. Been following for a while. My drones keep me busy, but I keep an eye out for when I'm finally going to purchase a good camera :).

hotrodindaytona
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Nikon redemption arc continues. What is standing in the way? Quite frankly it's the price and production at scale of those unmatched sensors in the REDs. Nikon will do everything it can to bring those costs down to where they can put them (or derivatives of them) in consumer and prosumer cameras at competitive prices. Let's face it: most people thought Nikon was somewhere between irrelevant and dead before the Z9. Now? Even the Sony reptilians must be losing sleep. Objects in the rearview may be closer than they appear. The sleeper has awakened. It may be that within 3-5 years the professional ICL camera industry will have been completely turned on its head.

JohnSmithAB
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Red raw would be a pretty incredible option to give to these current crop of Nikon cameras. The N-raw is more processing intensive and larger file sizes for the most part, so from a technical standpoint it seems doable.

joshkiddfilms
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This is just an observation, people under 35 seem to all be using Sony or some other brand. Most Nikon users seem to be older. I think Nikon marketing needs to do a better job attracting the under 35 crowd.

borlach
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But what will be Nikons next camera? The Nikon Z9 ii?

I wonder what they're working on right now and when it'll be released.

jonasgillmann
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Hey Simon do you think Canon fell short by not having a global shutter in the R1 and R5II? Thanks

DaddyyCrab
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7:55 "Readout time of 0" - A global shutter doesn't mean the read out time is zero; it merely means that the light gathering stopped at the same time - It still takes time to read out the data, and that is what determines the maximum frames per second.

KeithSklower
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I'm still shocked that Nikon managed to buy Red out, especially as I understand the Red cameras use Canon RF lenses, which if true you would think is now dead in the water. Canon caught sleeping?

mikejhennessy
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In general, claims made by a manufacture may not match what is measured in the real world, (or at least measured by CineD). Tests show that the V-Raptor X only has 14.5 steps at SNR=1 (12.8 for SNR 2 ) which is rather less than the 17 steps claimed. Nonetheless that's certainly more than 12 what can be represented in a 12 bit linear codec (without log), but which the R3D format can provide. The RED sensors also do not employ phase shift autofocus, which I believe the current Z9 sensor has. If you look at the spec sheet for commercially available sensor from sony imaging, the video modes of the chips only export 12 bit, but some photo modes export 14 bits and some have fast enough read-out to support 24fps video. So, it seems to me that by only changing the firmware Nikon could improve the dynamic range of the Z9 capturing it internally with the R3D format

KeithSklower
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Appreciate your enthusiasm, but to be clear, no camera created by Red to date can achieve 17 - 20 stops of dynamic range in the real world. The highlight recovery feature available on Red cameras is more of a gimmick; As it can only be utilized on stationary subject; This is because it is actually capturing two successive frames, with two different exposures and combining them in-camera. Should the subject move, ghosting artifacts will be introduced into the image, ruining the take.

Contrasting this approach ARRI and Canon utilize a single image capture and process this single frame at two different gain levels. One optimized for highlight, the other optimized for the shadows. The simultaneous capture removes the possibility of ghosting artifacts. ARRI calls this technology Dual Gain Architecture (DGA), whereas, Canon coined the term Dual Gain Output (DGO).

Comparing the Sony A9III sensor to Red’s global shutter sensors:
* Sony’s Global shutter sensor is a stacked design - Red GS sensor is not stacked
* The Sony Sensor supports best in class Autofocus - Red… Not so much.
* Sony’s sensor achieves 9 stops of exposure latitude - Red V-Raptor-X 9 stops of exposure latitude
* Power - The Sony sensor requires only 1/10th the power compared to the Red sensor
* Cooling - Sony sensor can be passively cooled without the need for a massive heatsink. The Red V-Raptor-X as well as the Komodo series internals are mostly occupied by the giant heatsink and fan.
* Requirements suitable for use in compact body
* Sony’s design supports full weather sealing, Red make no claim as to weather sealing for any of their cameras

FYI: I am a Red shooter for many years… I own Reds and also own the Sony A9III. Imo, the Sony A9III is Sony’s best hybrid model. The sensor technology is second to none. Dynamic range, as measured by the Xyla21 chart, is more a measure of noise reduction. Real world dynamic range… that is how much can be recovered in post, is gauged by the over/under test… AKA exposure latitude. The $6, 000 Sony A9III matches the $30, 000 Red V-Raptor-X in exposure latitude. I believe Nikon will be better off continuing to purchase Sony sensors. Fun fact: Red does not make its own sensor.

angryrabbitproductions
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The Canon flagship announcement was a very meh moment for me. I think if there is going to be a revolution, it will be a Nikon camera with Red technology, but I guess it will be at least a year from the purchase of Red before we see the new tech. I guess we may see a new camera that is finally worth the wait. And we may see Nikon rocket to their former throne, never to relinquish it. My one beef with their current offerings is that D lenses won't work with the adapter. Sure, they want to shove customers to upgrade to new glass and make money via that path and I don't blame them. But (as far as I am concerned) they still have not topped their DC lenses for portrait photography. And the 180mm is pure magic, not to be overlooked. The 60mm macro makes special images and you can buy one for lunch money (if you go to a nice place for lunch). There are other special D lenses that I will never part with and have to keep old cameras to use them. It sure would be nice if they would address this flaw when they are doing the next gen cameras.

danncorbit
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My guess is Nikon will create a new Red Code Raw that’s based on a 12bit codec with slightly less dynamic range but fully capable of the red codec. Nikon did say they will keep the red name so they must create a line between the Nikon hybrids and red cameras.

gnkstudios
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Start shipping today? A friend of mine received hers like a couple of weeks ago in Europe.

AnastasTarpanov
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It is almost starting the obvious that Nikon is going to incorporate RED technology into Nikon cameras after Nikon purchased RED. Interesting times ahead, but I will stick with Canon as my primary system and Nikon as a secondary system.

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