Batman: Arkham Knight - Batgirl: A Matter of Family DLC Trailer

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Set prior to the events of Batman: Arkham Asylum, Batgirl: A Matter of Family will allow players to take on the role of Batgirl for the first time in the Batman: Arkham franchise.

Batgirl: A Matter of Family will be available July 14 for fans who have purchased the Batman: Arkham Knight Season Pass and are connected to the Internet, or it can be purchased separately on July 21 for $6.99 MSRP on the PlayStation Network and Xbox LIVE online entertainment network from Microsoft.

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This makes no fucking sense. Apparently this is before Asylum, so why is Tim Drake still here? This would make Nightwing's mantle of Robin really short and Jason Todds as well considering that Rocksteady counts Origins in their chronological timeline

EpicGamers
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Barbara has been Batgirl in the span of time Batman went through three Robins? How? I know they're probably trying to justify her sudden relationship with Tim, but the Robin here seems like it's fit better as Jason.

TheAzulmagia
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Hopefully this won't be another 10 minute long couple of sections of mission like the Harley Quinn and Red Hood DLC

mrmaccy
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How is batgirl so much hotter than Oracle??

MrCheese
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Gee...it appears Tim Drake never ages.

tomorrowsdust
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WB games montreal what the HELL have you done. STOP WRECKING THE ARKHAMVERSE!!!

torchwoodzrw
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This actually looks really cool! Even if Montreal is doing it, I have increased faith now since 1) they have a different lead designer working on it and 2) they're carrying over the hacking elements to blend Barbara's intelligence and intuition with more tactical gameplay, even if this may not really introduce much into the game. And of course Mark Hamill is back as Joker which is amazing, and given the plot of Gordon being kidnapped at a circus I'm guessing this is more than a little inspired by The Killing Joke (imagine if that Clock Tower scene actually happens at the end of this DLC). I'm surprised that not many of you here are excited about Harley's Animated Series skin - sure, it looks a bit silly and unrealistic for this series but since this is a prequel you'd expect that these characters embrace their concept a little too literally. And of course Dini would be proud :D

Also, about Robin: it depends how long before Asylum this game is. AO was ten years before Asylum and we can assume perhaps a year went by between the multiplayer and the story given that Dick Grayson Robin is in it. If Tim is here, then let's assume this is two years before Asylum - that gives us a little under eight years between AO multiplayer and this. Four years of Grayson, four years of Jason (it rhymes!) which means Tim is early in his career as Robin. And his Arkham City bio said that Batman put him under "rigorous training" so he may not be a pro but at least he can fight. But it is still lazy just to include his Knight skin (it's Montreal, what do you expect?)

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Mark Hamill is once again back as the Joker, which is freaking awesome, and it's great to see Harley Quinn in her classic outfit (which is necessary considering her noting getting a "new uniform" in Arkham Asylum, and references such as her character bio and the statues in Arkham City that make it clear she used to wear this outfit at one point). Anyway, only gripes with the trailer are that it shouldn't be Tim as Robin, if this DLC ends with Barbara getting shot, then it should probably be Jason Todd as Robin. Also, the costume shouldn't even look like the redesign in Arkham Knight. Literally just gripes though, no point in hating the trailer for that.

robertwild
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Looks, good! But I was expecting Dick or Jason as Robin....

WagnerMusic
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To everyone flipping out about the timeline, remember Asylum happened just a little over 2 years before Knight so who's to say this didn't happen in the year before asylum or even month's before so tim easily could have been robin. remember this is rocksteady's universe not the DCU so whatever comic timeline you're holding on to doesn't fit here

armargo
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Is Robin seriously wearing the same outfit from Arkham Knight?

tomorrowsdust
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Are they really using Tim Drake robin again?

TheBigChief
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Everything about this makes me excited. From playing as Batgirl to the traditional Harley outfit- I CAN'T WAIT!

BatpamOfficial
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Alright, Arkham Videos, I want your honest opinion.
What the heck is going on? 
Did they really forget that Tim wasn't Robin before Arkham Asylum? That even during Asylum, Batman was Robin-less? I feel like they've forgotten a lot of Paul Dini's story details. Seriously though. And Tim using his new suit, before his suit in City. 

What is going on?

I love Harley, I love how Joker looks, and I understand that that's Gordon's next gen model, but really, the only thing Tim is doing there is... nothing really, aside from adding on to what happens in the story of Arkham Knight. 
I was thinking about picking this up for Babs, but nope. Not anymore. I was expecting Jason as Robin, which would've been the logical and obvious choice. 

Anyways, still want your opinion, if possible, on certain decisions that they've been making for the game, such as this one, that doesn't really make much sense...

TheDarkRedbird
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Loving the new Joker and Harley looks, plus the Robin and Batgirl dual-play looks amazing. I also really like how they went back to the Arkham Asylum look for the thugs. In Arkham City, they looked kind of different, but seeing as how this takes place before Asylum, I'm glad they went back to old looks. However, I am kind of sad that Tim Drake is Robin (I believe that is the case), because with the timeline of the Arkhamverse (Origins included) it makes the most sense for this to be Jason Todd. Considering Arkham Asylum takes place approximately 7 years after Arkham Origins and there is nearly 3 years between Asylum and Knight, it makes sense that Dick Grayson was Robin for Arkham Origins and a few years after that, Jason Todd from between that time and right before Asylum, and Tim Drake from then on.

lukeandruzzi
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Tim is robin in this? That makes no fucking sense.

tarheelfan
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This makes no sense. There was no Robin during Arkham Asylum. So therefor Tim shouldn't be in this. It should be Dick or Jason. Dick would become Nightwing after or Jason would be captured by the Joker. Either way makes more sense then this piece of shit!

Salvage
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I already commented earlier about it being Tim Drake but what I am hoping for is that its meant to be Dick or Jason and they are just showing us footage using the Tim Drake lets hope thats what it is...

WagnerMusic
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0:29 We will now be able to use trees as vantage points instead of them just being in the way!

jludwig
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I assume they cut out the part of the DLC where you jump into the Batgirlmobile to fight Jokerdrones.

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