How to Achieve Peace in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

The Michael Shermer Show # 437

A conversation with Einat Wilf, former member of the Israeli Parliament, on how to resolve the conflict between Palestine and Israel.

Einat Wilf holds a PhD in Political Science from the University of Cambridge. She is the author of six books, including The War of Return.

Shermer and Wilf discuss:
• Karim Khan, prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) accused Israeli and Hamas leaders of war crimes and called for a cease-fire by Israel in Gaza, particularly in Rafah.
• Accusations of genocide, induced famine, and war crimes against Netanyahu.
• After 7 months of fighting why has the IDF been unable to defeat Hamas?

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[PremjitTalwar]

I love Michael Shermer's interviews. He is rare among interviewers, almost never interrupting his guests. Also, he always adds nuggets of wisdom which enriches the blog. Thank you Michael.

[Tom-leyy]

Einat youre amazing! Unrivaled clarity.

[Knight]

She's amazing. I can't believe how much I've learned in the space of 100 minutes.

[thevillageyid]

Einat Wilf is pretty awesome. Her recent videos about UNRWA are fascinating and very eye opening.

[Trava]

Thank you from Sweden. Einats view has been my view for decades. My father visited Israel days before the war in 1967 and his and my view was the same as Einats already then. PLO and Hamas has declared where they stand from the beginning and you only do not see it if you do not want to see it. Thenk you for a great interview!

[Yasnoor]

As an Arab committed to peace, I have found this conversatiom quite remarkable. Thank you for explaining how antisemitism actually manifests and for indicating a path to peace through transformation rather than force. Respect to you both Michael and Einat.

[chridfletcher]

Einat Wilf is an excellent speaker and very factual.

[BCD-sl]

I really love that this beautiful speech specifically after 1:17 which Ms Einat wif criticize abrahamic religions system and discussed the way of interpretation is important and it can turn the page completely.
As an Iranian atheist on the behalf of vast majority of Iranian people I would say we love Israeli people and would like to start our relationship even better than before 1979.
The problem is the radical and terrorist islamist regime in Iran which occupied Iran for more than 44 years and is the enemy of Iranians, Israelis, and many other people in the world.

This anti human regime also is an enemy with huge culture and civilization of Iran especially before Islam, namely Persian empire, Zarathustrianism, etc.

I wish the people of Iran and Israel would start their relationship soon after the collapse of this anti-human regime. This time has come to Cyrus the Great accords.❤
Long live Iran
Long live Israel

[thecosmos-ltyg]

She knows what she is talking about. Too bad she is ignored by the mainstream media.

[nba]

Excellent conversation with an extremely knowledgeable, intelligent and educated guest who says it like it is.

[johannesdorr]

Wow. This is clearly by far the best analysis of the conflict I have come across to date. Tough stuff indeed, but extraordinarily eye-opening and thought-provoking. How long are we as Western countries and democratic societies going to nourish blatantly flawed ideas about the causes of the conflict which cannot stand to scrutiny? How long are we going to indulge false excuses that enchain an entire people in a state of victimhood and non-responsibility? And finally, how long are we going to waste billions of dollars for keeping alive a deeply corrupt and rotten system whose only purpose is the perpetuation of war against Israel? The path that leads to true peace is hard and stony because it involves issues that are beyond the usual sphere of political activity, beyond the realm of negotiations and compromise. But if we put in it all the energy and resources we are currently wasting while cutting off all possible subterfuges, we can eventually succeed. By all means, we should try it.

[listenup]

What a powerhouse Einat is! Thanks for facilitating such an incredible talk, Michael.

[MishMichaeli]

This interview should be a must see in the UN. Thank you both.❤️❤️❤️

[kyledammann]

Important conversation. Thank you both for investing your time to share this message.

[eddiebrune]

I admire this woman!!!! so clever, so sharp,

[Bettybaminjerusalem]

As an Israeli who was brought up on beliving peace between us and the Palestinians Einat expresses so well how I feel.
I wanted to belive even when peace groups and meetings from my school didn't work from the Palestinian side, I wanted to belive even after my reletives were injured in 2 terror attacks of Hamas, but after October 7th I got the massage, I started listening to what they say in arabic. She is 100% right.

[urielpolak]

Weapons behind the teddybear. People will skipp over this. The IDF knows to look in the childrens rooms first

[EMattheww]

As always, Einat never misses. So clear and concise it’s amazing.

[anchormax]

Brilliantly articulated, with the only reservation, that when the focus is on Israel only, one may miss that similar dynamics are already in high gear in the US and Europe. People that were helped and welcomed are already harboring grievances against and rejection of their hosts. I am not as optimistic as Dr. Wilf, I think the problem is far greater, so great that most people just keep their eyes shut.

[letXeqX]

Einat's book "The War of Return" is essential reading for understanding the pal-Israel issue, fantastic book.