Algorithm UPDATE: Did This STOP You GETTING VIEWS?!

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YouTube recently admitted that they had to change the algorithm to fix a problem for views, but did it cause a problem for creators that have been struggling to get views?

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I hate this path we're going down, where people's attention span are dwindling down to nothing. I hate that it's so addictive and now every platform has their own "shorts". It's making every app look the same and have the exact same purpose.

Instagram basically killed it's static content for the sake of reels, so photographers and other creator that live off stills just lost their home.

Not to mention how there is very little to actually learn and retain from such short content. You just spent an hour watching 2000 shorts. Can you tell me anything about them? What were they about? What did you learn? What's the actual value this type of content provides? Yes, entertainment, but at what cost?

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I'd love if YouTube gave videos, shorts and live streams a separate tab each (like the community tab is currently separate from the videos) when you click someone's channel as it would make the layout look a lot cleaner, especially since custom thumbnails don't show up on shorts when you're looking an an overview of someone's channel

NintenJas
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I personally feel that splitting the history between them kinda sucks. If I watch 300 shorts from a specific channel and like them all, the algorithm should know that I like THAT channel or at least the TYPE of content it is. So when I leave shorts, the algorithm should, in theory, recommend me that channel’s normal length videos and whatnot. It would be a cool ecosystem if both shorts and normal videos spoke well with each other.

lcruuzl
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Mr. Beast, who has a strong understanding of the algorithm does not upload shorts to his main channel. Whether or not adding shorts to the mix will hurt your channel is still a grey area even if you say it won't have an effect. As as creator, I am not interested in experimenting with the medium of my content, rather the content itself. As it stands, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to reach my own subscribers. Chasing TikTok is going to be a huge misstep for Youtube. Tiktok rots the brain, it's a toxic platform that values instant stimulation instead of any connection to the educational or entertainment value of the content the creator makes :d

imarginacionmxd
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I feel like my views have been decreasing recently… Hopefully this vid can help me figure out what’s wrong!

MSG.Productions
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Some tips that may help creators (although I’m also guilty on not doing these enough lol)
1) Use verbal/visual CTA’s in your shorts leading to longer content.
2) Use shorts as a teaser for you longer vids
3) Use shorts a breakdown / behind the scenes of your longer vids
4) Utilise the community tab to redirect all those viewers you gained from shorts into your longer vids
5) If you have the time & resources, have two channels one focusing on short form content & other to longer vids to segment your audience.

TheVictorLoyiso
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VidIQ always gets us the help we need for our videos, ultimate GIGA CHAD!

JaxIshYT
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My shorts do better than my long form content and in turn has brought me subs, which has helped out the long form vids. Been following you since I had 1 sub, your tips have helped tremendously 📸

JuanOfAllTrades
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I've suspected something happened with the inner working of YouTube. For the past decade, I've had a handful of videos that have consistently gotten good views, lots of comments, and brought in steady income. It was something I could always count on. Starting sometime after when I started doing some shorts, my old reliable videos seem to have dropped off the radar. I'm not directly associating the two as cause and effect, but it's clear that YouTube has changed something. Several of the vids I'm referring to have done good year after year, so I believe something happened to them to stop them from circulating. It's really frustrating, not knowing what happened or why. If I'm doing something wrong, or need to do something different, I'd like to know. I suspected I was doing what was good, since many of my vids did so well for so long. So I kept the same formula and stuck with it. It served me well all these years, until now.
I did try shorts a little bit since YouTube kept pushing them so much, and that's about the only thing I've done differently over 13 years. Whether it was me doing shorts, or just the platform hosting shorts in general, I hate to think such a simplistic thing could ruin my whole channel. But whatever it is, YouTube has definitely done something, and it's really depressing and worrisome (I depend on my channel for income). 🙁

BaltimoreAndOhioRR
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I don't really care about YT shorts, that's what Tik Tok is for.

Willact
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I thought this would happen so...I never watch shorts on YT for this very reason. I find more value in the long form and don't want shorts clogging up my home page. YT for me is all about the long form and Insta is for short form.

PaulOwenMusic
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It's easy: the algorithm knows what percentage of a video most people watch. If you got 26 views as in your example it's very likely most of those people didn't watch until the end and most of them probably didn't watch more than a few minutes. This video shouldn't even talk about shorts because as you said they have nothing to do with the issue. If people aren't watching your long videos it means your videos aren't good enough to get people to watch the whole way through. If people did watch the whole way through then those would make it into the algorithm and get suggested to more people including your own subscribers. The only metric that matters for long form content is total percentage watched. You can find where users dropped off your video in the analytics. Usually there will be one boring part where most users snap out of it and decide to go somewhere else. This is a poor editing cue, it tells you exactly where you did something wrong on your long form editing and how you can fix it. Watch your video just like a regular user would watch it and at that point in the video watch for what it is that made them leave. Usually it's just video downtime or poor editing choices but it could be something you said like a historically inaccurate fact or something offensive. This video shouldn't even mention shorts with reference to long form content they are on opposite ends of the spectrum and as demonstrated they have nothing to do with one another in the algorithm. Also the reason shorts do so well is because of the same theory I mentioned above. People are much more likely to watch your entire short until the very end which makes the algorithm very happy and it's why they put your short in front of more audience including your own subs. If they don't watch until the end for the initial test audience that YouTube shows your video to or worse if they don't click it at all then your short won't perform well in the long run.

JonnoPlays
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This video is my channel in a nutshell! Most of my shorts get views, long format gets barely any...

LaugharneMusic
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02:21 Ads in Shorts NOW in Testing
Wow... I can't wait 😁😍✅

SurferFact
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To the person who is reading this, don’t give up on your YouTube channel. Keep going it’s going to get better.

shortcut
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They should integrate where they suggest a channel to the viewer of whom they have watched the most shorts from, and suggest longer format videos to them as well.

RealisticGamingOfficialYT
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But what if someone hatest your youtube channel and wants to sabotage your youtube videos and watch a few seconds for many times then left, and does that with a multiple youtube accounts? It destroys the algorithm, right? I think if someone wants to mess up your youtube videos, they can do that so youtube algorithm will stop recommending the youtube videos ang get fewer views. That hurts.

JessieFerrer
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This explains so much about what is currently dysfunctional with my channel right now. I have one short that just passed 8 million and keeps getting tens of thousands of views a day (and btw no bonus for the millions of views in June either) and I notice that translates into my other shorts getting dozens or hundreds of views a day, yet I'm still aggressively pursuing the long form and it's just barely the tiniest increase. Like 10 extra views in the first couple of days rather than what should probably be hundreds by now given the sub base at this point. I don't buy that my long form is terrible. It's improved a lot and when compared to the other people who do the same thing, I think it holds its own. I'm just not seeing the recommendation based viewing happening which is very frustrating. What I would love is if YT would give the shorts creators watch time credit for say 10% of what these shorts get. Heck, I'd even gladly take 5%! I get that they don't make ad revenue, but come on, throw us a bone!

GettinStitchy
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My question is this as a content creator what about putting a teaser to your long form content as a short could that generate some buzz for someone to check out the long form content? I know that I edit some of my stuff into clips and I just upload them into my playlist for Clip Outs.

MovieLoversUnite
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I have something weird going on with one of my older videos, not a short since its nearly 3 years old. Yesterday I noticed that when looking at the video on the analytics page it says it has 597 views, but everywhere else (channel page, youtube watch page, and the youtube video manager page) it says it has 1110 views. Even have had a couple friends check it to see how many views it says for them when they viewed it, and they said 1110 views.

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