Is Belief in God Logical?

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But isn't it wrong to assume that scientific method as such is always rooted in a verificationist framework? Even Godel, coming from the positivist camp, had realized the insufficiency of verificationism to some degree. And Lakatos had shown, quite brilliantly, how falsificationism isn't a sufficient or necessary criteria either to demarcate science from pseudoscience.
Mr Kuhn seems like saying here that any argument that enters the speculative territory of metaphysics will invariably produce gaps in logic and reasoning. His fidelity to empiricism, albeit impressive, actually circumvents the fact that in the history of science, speculations and intuitions have often prefigured truths that were outside the purview of empirical verification of their times.
The remnants of verificationism and its ideological progeny - scientism - are actually symptomatic of a western attitude, also rooted in emotional dispositions and intuitions, that deems any argument that goes in the direction of metaphysics as immediately unworthy and/or dishonest. (Ofc I'm not criticising Kuhn here, bcos in practice, he's much more earnest in his self-reflection and intellectual openness than most westerners)

lokayatavishwam
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I still believe in a higher power of some sort, you can’t change my mind on it at this point. I won’t claim it’s objective truth, but I believe it’s more likely than not.

ElephantWhisperer
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Why demand from others what you can do for yourself? If you tell a being what it has to be, you will never know what it is. Let go of your views, preconceptions, and judgements. Offer God a place of sanctuary within your heart. Introduce yourself to God.

TheWayOfRespectAndKindness
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with time we have seen many things become measurable, you don't need belief, just time and patience

mantravision
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If your definition of a god entails a contradiction, the it's not logical.
If your definition does not entail a contradiction, then it is logical?

juju
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Basically: "The scientific method has limits, and there are other ways to get verifications."

Corteum
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Surely you cannot experience what I did. But the same experience has been being recorded for thousands of years like clockwork. The true God causes his spirit to go out and it has success in what He sends it to do. It is an active force that is unseen to the untrained.Some men prove unfaithful to Him others love and appreciate Him more, and still others are puffed up and don’t want to acknowledge Him as the one deserving of the honor and glory and praise because they have an opportunity to act as if they are something or someone special.
Praise JAH

mikekea
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This dude believes in a God already. His faith is in the material basis of science and Logic which is his God. He, and all those like him simply come off as arrogant when they pretend otherwise. “From where does your Logic come, and on what basis do you claim it to be the sole lens through which Humanity might accurately observe reality?” would be an analogous question to pose to him. For the record, I myself do believe in the value of the scientific method, but I do find that those who most loudly proclaim the absolute supremacy of the scientific method as the only way to interpret reality are actually those who act most dogmatically to propagate the unfounded myth of an exclusively materialist worldview.

TheSpiralingWay
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Let people believe whatever they want, as long as people aren't hurting each other it doesn't matter what people believe. God is real, or is not, or only on Fridays lol Some people have been proven god isn't real and others proven he is. It is what it is.

john-martin
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This makes no sense. How can the scientific method just completely discount something and say it’s because science 😂🤣. Having blatant bias and being scientific are not compatible.

crazyworld
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“ Science “ cannot evolve without accepting the truth of God

i.am.content
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Personal experience with…Entities. Just you seeing it is one thing, a room full of people? That’ll convince you that other worldly evil exists. And if that’s the case, it makes the likelyhood of god much much more likely. It can’t be assumed that those who believe in god just pulled it out of their a$$. Maybe they have their reasons.

chongxina
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What kind of 'Logic' ??

Is the immediate subjective experience something that requires 'logic' to be believed ??

Therefore, A lot of things that seem existence evident in themselves don't require any sort of 'logic' to exist as those are already given ...

If the 'intellect' is an emergent property from cellular networks (as materialists 'new phrenologists' tends to believe ) ... How do Intellect constructs can enclose something that doesn't belong to their domain of existence ? ...

The first step to experience an experience 'out of your self' is by deconstructing each notion of self in a set of talking apes ... and letting that environmental system deploy an intersubjective environmental node ... once the environmental node is formed and it becomes integrated into other environmental nodes... then, as the processing speed increase, an 'external consciousness would be formed that would control its physical 'base layer' ...

While there are fragmented Selfs, there is no 'outer consciousness in the system ...

So, Kuhn should forget to know the Gods ... to perish in 'his self' was/is/will be already 'wrote' in the brane ...

firstnamesurname
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You don’t need science to prove god is real

nawaf
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I am not going to be a person who doesn’t believe in a higher power witch is “GOD”! I think it would be the smarter thing to do is believe! Why! I just believe mainly because I would prefer to play it safe!! What do you have to lose by being a believer! Nothing!

davidharris
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Belief in God is not logical no matter what anyone tells you.
If you believe, fine, just don't think it is reasoned.

paulcooper
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Individualism sucks.
Trauma and mental capability to seek another person, or the witness in OMG habits.
OMG is to witness without understanding, reacting or helping.
Help arrives from the collectives, or people remain absolute to themselves and fearful or suspect of help.
How many can interrupt a board meeting, while the building is on fire?
How many can turn off the TV, when a calamity is on the street or a life is lost?
How many can be present, when all demands are to not be present?

mellonglass
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The entire God in the current biblical sense is far too easy to debunk. While I believe the universe has power far beyond human resources and the human conscience the idea of God is simply not an option for me. Far too many people die in the name of this idea, far too much disease and hatefulness throughout the planet. Not to mention the cherry picked ideas crammed together from MYRIAD cultures to arrive at current narrative.

roberttrottier
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Have a discussion with Bernardo Kastrup PhD PhD ✌️

michaeldillon
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Science will send a lot of people to hell

josefinacortez