ALL The Debates Over 1 Tim 2:11-15: Women in Ministry part 12 (it took me a year to make this)

0:00:00 INTRO
0:12:59 What this passage appears to be saying.
0:23:32 How egalitarians see the passage.
0:33:00 Was this just Paul's personal opinion?
1:02:50 The word "permit" shows this doesn't apply to us.
1:21:25 Paul has no jurisdiction over us.
1:32:07 This is about wives not women.
1:46:30 What does "quietly" mean?
2:05:30 Does the cult of Artemis change everything?
3:36:44 Is "have authority" a wrong translation?
8:03:15 The "Bunch of Female False Teachers" view.
9:14:32 Why does Paul appeal to Adam and Eve?
9:20:44 Are women more easily deceived than men?
9:44:00 What does "saved through childbearing" mean?
10:56:30 The "Elders Don't Have Authority Anyways" view.
11:04:18 Final conclusions.

1 Timothy 2: 11-15 is THE most hotly debated passage in the Bible today, at least in regard to Women in Ministry and possibly in regards to scholarship in general. It APPEARS to clearly limit women's roles in church ministry but...

Some say this passage shows that women can't be elders.
Other claim it means they can't even be college teachers or politicians.
Others say it's just combating ancient hyper-feminism.
Others say it's been mistranslated, perhaps by misogynists.
Others claim it is really just fighting against the ancient cult of Artemis.
Some say it's just about wives and has no application into church ministry.
Others say Paul's ruling here has no jurisdiction over us today.
Others say it's just Paul's personal opinion and not an apostolic ruling at all.
Still others claim a number of other things about this passage, most often seeking to find a newer way to understand it so that it won't limit the roles of women in ministry.
Today I'm going to go through ALL the debates and demonstrate the sad failure of egalitarian scholarship to reinterpret this passage, as well as provide some proper corrections for many in the patriarchalist camp.

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[MikeWinger]

0:00 INTRO
12:59 What this passage appears to be saying.
23:32 How egalitarians see the passage.
33:00 Was this just Paul's personal opinion?
1:02:50 The word "permit" shows this doesn't apply to us.
1:21:25 Paul has no jurisdiction over us.
1:32:07 This is about wives not women.
1:46:30 What does "quietly" mean?
2:05:30 Does the cult of Artemis change everything?
3:36:44 Is "have authority" a wrong translation?
8:03:15 The "Bunch of Female False Teachers" view.
9:14:32 Why does Paul appeal to Adam and Eve?
9:20:44 Are women more easily deceived than men?
9:44:00 What does "saved through childbearing" mean?
10:56:30 The "Elders Don't Have Authority Anyways" view.
11:04:18 Final conclusions.

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[Dan_J.]

Fun fact: This study is one minute longer than all three extended Lord of the Rings movies spliced together.

[hycynth]

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[e.azcoitia]

Mom said I can watch one more YouTube video before bed

[lorigalena]

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[notaboutdavid]

I’m a pastor myself and I can’t thank you enough for this amount of excellence, diligence and God-glorifying work you’ve put into this video. I will be donating to your ministry because there is no other proper response to this level of YouTube content. This is better than seminary level education you are giving people for free. God bless your obedience to the Holy Spirit, your resilience in this midst of health opposition and your heart in a heavily debated and emotional topic. I am confident that at the end of Mike Winger’s ministry he will be remembered as one of the best bible teachers to live in the 21st century.

[ericanicole]

So looking forward to this! As a woman who has been highly convicted by the Lord on this passage this year, I am thrilled to spend the next 11 hours listening to this. Thank you in advance for all of your work on this, Pastor Mike! May God continue to bless you and work through you for His glory.

[brittanyhoward]

SO much respect for Pastor Mike who has devoted himself to help people understand how truly the Bible is to be applied. And even after taking beyond 11 hours just to film and countless hours of study, he doesn’t say “please watch the whole video”, but rather “if you want to skip to the end, here you go.” Just genuinely wants people to live by God’s Word. I love and appreciate this ministry.

[elijahmccormick]

I drive a lot for work. Im proud to say I’ve finished this in 3 days. And surprisingly it went by faster than I expected. Great job making this enjoyable and engaging Mike. No skip club rise up.

[charlessorsby]

I don’t care how long it takes me, I will be a member of the “No Skip Club.” I shall make it through!!

It only took me a month, but I made it through!

[Sharksnak]

Mike literally made a free audio book on 4 sentences.

Thanks for your faithfulness, Mike!

[sivad]

This is the most excited I've ever been for an 11 hour lecture on 4 whole sentences!

[graygardner_]

I’ve been in pastoral ministry for over a decade and have a seminary degree and a masters from a top divinity school in the UK. I say this without hesitation or exaggeration - this is the best study on this topic I have EVER come across, and it’s not even close! Incredibly thorough, insightful, and accessible. That this type of study is free is beyond a gift to the church. Well done brother, and THANK YOU!!

[jacobnathan]

I don’t think there’s ever been a video more deserving of a like in the history of YouTube. Thank you pastor Mike for putting a whole year into this, especially given all you went through this year.

[moosejuice]

No joke Mike, I started writing a paper this week about women in ministry based on your videos, and I got to 1
Timothy like 10 minutes ago and was like
"too bad Mike hasn't made a video about this yet." THEN I LITERALLY OPEN MY YOUTUBE FOR WHATEVER REASON AND IMMEDIATELY FIND THIS VIDEO
YOU POSTED YESTERDAY COVERING THE EXACT THING I WAS JUST ABOUT TO WRITE ABOUT! I'm low key freaking out. God is good. Sorry, just wanted to share that 😂

[mickknight]

FINALLY!! Ok, coffee is brewed, got my notebook, pen, Bible, prayed up.
GO MIKE! ☝️🙏

[KevinEDF]

Half way through and I must say that you have a gift to teach because I have not been bored at all even though some of this is in the weeds. You are a blessing to many, please continue in your humble approach and your encouraging us to make up our own minds rather than follow a certain teacher.

[moosechuckle]

Pastor Mike, this is almost 12 hours long. That’s incredible!!

This is like an entire class all in one video. Thank you for your dedication, your hard work, and helping us all to understand God on a deeper level.

[lost_sheep]

How blessed are we to be alive at a time where we can learn from pastors who will do things like this for us. Thank you Mike, you bring so much glory to our Lord

[Anabee]

Pastor Winger: I cannot even BEGIN to tell you how EXTREMELY much I (im sure ALL OF US) appreciate all the time & effort you put into helping us be better Bible thinkers, but ESPECIALLY all that you have put into THIS topic, ESPCLY knowing you have pushed thru such medical issues. I'm one, of many, for whom this topic has bn a war in my head for YEARS & YEARS. Far more than most, if not ALL others.
What an EXEMPLARY servant of Jesus Christ you are.