'There is something outside computation in human understanding' | Roger Penrose

[JohnBl]

This guy was an academic superstar when I was at university in the 80s. He's still got.

[getAliKhan]

Yes, outside the counting world
Number of minutes
Number of miles
Number of coins
there is an infinite, timeless, priceless experience that does not belong to any religion. That cannot be contained in language. This is at the core of our humanness.

[christianheidt]

So true!
There's always more than one tool in the toolbox, unless your building exactly the same thing permanently.
Such a wise man, & so is logic!

[parvdize]

ask real views are really matters，don't let an AI company tells you that AI is great，AI is not a tool，it's a product that clearly somebody wants you to buy

[lindafarwell]

What does this mean for the future of Artificial intelligence??

[chrisramage]

As above so below, Atoms, we are made of the universe,

[dallinsprogis]

Disclaimer warning - I’m not saying this is true. But here is my analogy.

Should scientists discover that the sun will go supernova in the next 1000 years, do we have time for this?

I would like to see a party that believes in surviving the universe and believes it to be a true goal.

When you put responsibility in the reality of our situation. We should not have to fight to be comfortable in any generation.

Think. No matter your faith can have its place in space.

I believe in this quote “Surviving the universe is a true goal”

If we believe, then I’m confident the rest will fall into place for human stability.

[pietervermond]

Don’t use your thinking to understand!

[parvdize]

AI is not technology，AI is not science，AI is Business！

[gpodgorzak]

I love to listen to Sir Roer Penrose but frankly I struggle to follow what he is saying, but maybe because English isn't my mother tongue.

[peterborelli]

All of these words, said by Penrose and by others commenting here, no matter how erudite they may seem, will never lead us to true understanding.
Actually they are a block to understanding.
Only silencing the mind will open us up to the experience of what is true.

[carpediemcotidiem]

Because consciousness is outside computation? Why so?

[brendawilliams]

You can’t appreciate Sir Penrose until you are conscious enough to be grateful.

[Kube_Dog]

It's worth appreciating how hard science and philosophy have to experiment and reason to get maybe only 1% of people to admit the butt obvious. We are brilliant morons as a species.

[seanhewitt]

Considering humanity has binocular vision and stereo hearing, is it possible that awareness is a byproduct of the double slit experiment?, does biology need quantum physics inorder to possess intelligence?

[SpudderR]

I always wonder what is Of Outside!? That allows the wheel of Perception to keep turning! I0l !?

[mithrandir]

Understanding is not only outside and beyond computation, or mechanics, or emotions, it's outside consciousness as well. It's mostly unconscious, whatever that means...

[johnmartin]

I agree. A sentient AI cannot be created.

If I'm wrong we're all deleted.

[hughmacdonald]

Lol. Skip It's word salad. 30 years past his prime.

[alangrayson]

What you, Roger Penrose, are referring to, without realizing it, is called "The White Light", discovered by Yoga masters thousands of years ago, one of seven major energy centers of human consciousness. It is the reason anything knows anything.