Do Melee's Mid-Tiers Have Any Hope?

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In Super Smash Bros Melee, the mid-tiers are considered divisive. Mainly because of how difficult it can be for them to preform at the highest level of the Meta. The point of this video is do a speculative forecast if the characters can get out of the "Mid-Tier" and even go up a couple spots possibly.
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0:00 Do They Have Hope?
1:33 Luigi
2:48 Mario/Dr. Mario
4:18 Ad
5:18 Ganondorf
6:58 Donkey Kong
7:55 Link/Young Link
9:28 Game & Watch
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[Bombermanfan]

“Some characters would kill for those things”


In a low tiers case, I don’t think they really could…

[StanleySophana]

Mekk has been focusing on solo Ganondorf for the year and he placed 9th at Super Smash Con 2023. That’s probably the best we’ve seen Ganondorf performed in years

[breakfast_skin]

It's insane how great DK has been doing recently in melee, I definitely see him moving up a few spots on the tier list in the near future.

[monkey]

DK just got his highest placement ever today at a major with Supernova, 3rd place LSG

[charlzthedrummer]

Best part about the Marios is that if falco wants to play lame by spamming lasers, cape makes them play on your level.

[crustman_]

Ik he wasn't in the video and considered a low tier, but I feel like Mewtwo can move to the lower end of mid tier with how he can combo pretty well and some players doing well with him.

[nuutral]

As an Adult Link, the only thing I can really say he struggles with (that hasn’t been said already) is his grab game, because he can only grab opponents on the ground. But Nair for both links is a niche but good OoS option for punishing approaches

[Sike]

I've got faith that Mario will go up the ranks one day. He's got potential I can feel it.

[megaman]

It's always been funny to me how Melee's tier list is, in a lot of ways, a measurement of how finished the characters are, with a lot of low tiers being low because they simply don't function properly

[nescartridges]

i have a little faith in game & watch honestly but i understand your perspective. awesome vid!

[TrayXiro]

One day I will push Mario to his highest potential because I know that he’s viable IMO

[Danielisniceidk]

Dk will be like yoshi underrated at the start but will rise through the tier to possibly above ice climbers

[FloetryFox]

I've been been a solo DK main all the way since late 64 era and I have always been preaching about how good DK ACTUALLY is for decades at this point. It's truly heartwarming to see folks finally seeing his full potential

[noirlavender]

Mid tiers are too damn difficult, there's a reason why Amsa took almost 10 years to win a major. I'm hoping for Franz to get a perfect bracked and someone to sd 2 or 3 times at grand finals so he can win a major soon, he's insanely good, but Doc is just thrash man wtf

[mushublaze]

I love the sound design, and starting with Bomberman hero ost always gets me hooked

[WeArePineapples]

Luigi is so good no matter what tier he's in he's such a good combo character 🙌

[bailujen]

If i were to add buffs where every mid to low tier are buffed to be as good as Peach and Jigglypuff
For Mario and Doc, Mario would be more closer to his SSBU gameplay focusing on vertical kills while Doc is more horizontal (with Fair being his only good vertical)
Pikachu Up special direction gets fixed, Up deals more damage and Down b goes through platforms
Yoshi (Pal buffs)
Bowser: fireball for neutral special, reduced end-lag, up b more recovery,
Kirby: faster air speed, air side b as a good horizontal edge-guard, fixed hitboxes (ending up as a slightly worse puff)
Samus: gets melee 1.00 up b where the drill is inescapable
Zelda: her neutral special same as Samus
Link: Speed, reduced end-lag
Young Link: Increased killpower

[Newbmann]

Gotta say the fact DK has won a regional at xanadu legends is shocking to me.
I dont even think luigi has one a regional on that scale although I could be wrong.

[BoIognaiseSSBU]

You deserve way more subscribers and likes. You'll get them one day !

[tatersthegoat]

i think as a doc player the character certainly has a chance to go far in the metagame, but like you said, there's only so many of us
only 1 doc made ssbmrank last year (Franz, at 45th) so we've obviously not got a lot of representation
but as long as we keep making progress in the more difficult mus doc has potential