Ravi Zacharias, the Man Who Brought Him Down, and the Response From the Evangelical Community

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In light of yet another scandal and cover up, I sat down with Steve Baughman to discuss his thoughts on the whole ordeal and how his name became attached to the late Ravi Zacharias. A sobering interview that I feel could benefit mainstream many Western Protestant Christians in light of #churchtoo and evangelical cover ups becoming the norm.

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[victorynowall]

Thank you Steve for bringing this TeleEvangelist Preacher down! It is said in the Bible we have to watch out for false Prophets!

[imrhodesian]

My question is .... if he lied about his education why did none of those universities/colleges not speak out and expose those lies?

[rebabyrd]

This guy did not bring him down. Ravi brought this on himself. This guy exposed him.

[tprada]

This atheist has a better handle on right and wrong than the evangelical “church” in exposing evil as Scripture commands.

[Beth]

This is such a wakeup call. As a victim of manipulation, lies, betrayal and spiritual abuse in a church in Indiana I am deeply grateful for the wake up call this should be to the evangelical world. The Church has a no contact order w me and they went so far as to try to tell me that I could not speak to ANYONE who attends that church in a frenzied effort to cover up what really happened and the horrific abuse I experienced at the hands of ONE MAN who has a lust for power that is being covered up. He groomed the new senior pastor and the elders, from what I've been told, have NO IDEA what lengths he went to to hide what lengths he went to to get rid of me. Although the scale is minor compared to the Ravi story, the dynamics are the same. Lies and cover up. Several strong advocates who are retired pastors worked tirelessly on my behalf and yet this man remains unexposed for the most part. This interview gives me courage to keep at it until the truth is known. You mentioned all the emails that have fallen on deaf ears. That has been my experience as well. They didn't want to face the truth, I was one single senior adult woman with severe PTSD because of the lack of care I received over the past 5 yrs and was a pain in the butt because I refused to be a victim. I was not strong enough to stand up to their power and live with horrific pain, often hovering between life and death. I'm a strong person but I've been unheard and beaten down by three churches a national ministry that also deceived me and then cut off communication to avoid facing the truth. I don't have the strength to fight anymore, other than to use public media to share my experience. I thank God that I am in a wonderful church now, which seems to be a safe place so far. I'm terrified, because I don't want to face any more harshness and rejection, which can lead to self sabotage if I'm not careful, but I am hopeful that there will be healing with time.

[jackielouw]

I was one of those who blindly accepted the integrity of Ravi. I admit that I totally dismissed Steve as an atheist out to destroy a good Christian man. I did apologise to Steve. It was a huge shock to learn the truth about Ravi. I have learnt so much through this. My faith in Jesus Christ is undiminished but my confidence in my discerning abilities is destroyed. I will be sceptical of all Christian leaders in furure.

[tiandavidson]

Steven, you had the courage to bring out the truth. We have lessons to learn from this. I shall pray that you may find the truth as you seek.

[andrewtungsk]

Comment 123 QUOTE : " But the real lesson from Ravi Zacharias is why you guys didn't learn twenty years ago when he was lying about his credentials." Steve Baughman. This is the most damning to the Church of Jesus Christ.

[normandennis]

I knew about Ravi a couple of years ago before most, through Steve and Servus Christi. Thanks Steve.

[welcometototalitarianism]

I once read a book by Ravi. It was words with no substance. That made me look twice at him. On another occasion, I believe he was asked if Catholicism was a cult. The way he answered convicted me to stop listening to him. I feel sad for his family.

[beaulin]

I appreciate your honesty in exposing Ravi when you first found out. This does not discredit God or the Lord Jesus Christ. It only confirms the evil that exists in the human heart, even in religious organizations. "Let God be true but every man a liar." "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked." Satan is always involved in religion hoping to turn people away from God with scandals like this.
I can understand why people might be suspicious of an atheist making claims against Ravi
at first, but they should have checked it out immediately and responded when they learned the truth. It does not surprise me that Christian organizations will compromise to protect their bottom line. They do it all the time. Men did this, not God. Ravi's deceit and the compromise of Christian organizations do not shake my faith in God or the truth of the Gospel at all. I have connected with Jesus personally. I know he exists and I know the Bible is true. It is sad that men have robbed you of your ability to believe. I will follow the Lord Jesus Christ even if every church on earth becomes corrupt and every pastor is caught in sin. My faith is not in them and does not depend on them. God is glorious and wonderful no matter what men do. Jesus warned: "Many false prophets shall arise and deceive many."

[hereiam]

Thank you so much for this, it's so clear and concise. I've listened to other channels and almost felt like I'm going to insane listening to how it's being presented and the comments from other Christians are frustrating and honestly just so illogical at times (especially when they use scripture out of context), it's been so disheartening.

[barbarakeats]

I loved "Traveling fron east to west". My heart melted when I heard about Ravi because I have read all his books and they were so well written and enlightening. God can use anyone to bring people to Christ and now Ravi has to face that God.

[sherrylelee]

Let’s always communicate ! Appreciate both sides and thank you Steve.

[niakum]

I never not one of this people who look up to celebrity preachers or churches with huge music production. To me God is so personal and I have tasted His goodness and I just cannot deny His existence. There is no right and wong, absolutely no boundaries without God. everything is up for grab. That alone said He exist. In jeremiah God called outsider to bring jugedment over leaders and Gods people. Steve is just used by God to bring judgement to our christian leaders.

[valeriemartens-schultz]

Steve, I am so very sorry for the hugely dishonest behavior you encountered from so many so called Christians.
As one who loves Jesus myself, I hate that you were treated so poorly by the employees of RZIM.
Please believe that we Christians aren't all this way.

[davidstout]

Sounds like he's basing Christianity on man's failure and not on Christ.
If I based my relationship with Jesus on my failures to love him as he loves me, I'd still be lost as well. I am overwhelmed by Christ's never ending love for me.

In short: Man fails, Religion fails!
Man created Religion, and Religion gets you nowhere.
A personal relationship with Jesus, and being a follower of Christ is the only way to walk a Christian life.
Christians need to stop placing men on pedestals. Only Jesus belongs there!

That's my take, like it or not.

God bless!

[doulos]

Steve you are so gracious in your words, the whole evangelical community should be ashamed...

[messenjah]

If Jesus could be beaten, torn, attacked, and killed, and STILL show love to those knew not what they did then there is NOTHING that is unforgivable. THAT was the lesson of the Ressurection. It was an extreme example of what we do all the time - crucify each other. When faced with much less temptation to withhold love, we can remember what Jesus demonstrated for us. Embrace forgiveness as release from our illusions of hatred and attack and join Him in the Ressurection.

[TheSacredlizzy]

He’s such a nice man. Praying for him.