DRIVER SHAFT FLEX - Does It Matter?

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In this video I test out to see if the flex on your driver shaft actually matters. I hit my current x-stiff shaft and compare it to a stiff, regular, and senior flex. The results were really surprising! If you enjoyed the video make sure to leave a like and subscribe!

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What kind of shaft do you play in your driver?

thatgolfgrind
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Interesting results. The Regular shaft was offline more often than any other shaft with three shots more than 50 yards offline. But your X-Stiff shaft had 3 shots offline by 41 yards or more, where as the Stiff shaft was less than 13 yards offline on 3 of the 5 shots. Your stiff shaft was only 8 yards shorter in Carry distance and only 7 yards shorter overall. I think I'd give up that half-a-club difference on the approach shot and keep it in the fairway more often.

golfnutt
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I really had to watch this video till the end because I recently did the same thing. I made up 4 shafts from senior to x stiff. I use the Cobra LTDX 9 degree head. My ball speed is about 20-25 mph slower than your 180 mph.. When I got fitted for the new driver, they put me in a stiff shaft. The fitter sad I was in between stiff and x stiff. I liked the stiff better. Plus, I'm getting old. 67! I was not convinced that the shaft I got fitted was for me. Turns out I like the senior flex shaft best. I have more of a Freddy Couples tempo swing. My club head speed on the course is 101-104 mph. On a launch monitor, I am usually getting about 150-160 mph ball speed. I just like the feel of the senior shaft better. Feels like I have to do less work to get same results.

noonster
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Went through 3 Stealth+ heads with the same issue. First one exploded after less than 50 balls on the range. After the next two, ended up getting my money back and getting the TSR4 - zero regrets!

RichieLawson
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Realized after playing 25 years of golf.... YES, Shafts Matter! But, flex will be different from one person to another even if they swing at the same speed.
Living in a place where its impossible to demo before you buy, so we go on standards that are fixed, ladies/ sr flex for slow swings, regular for medium (90-100 mph), stiff and extra stiff for faster swings. I followed these principals for most of my life. Until a senior gentleman asked me to try his Inesis 500 with a recoil F1 shaft ( ladies flex) with a 12 degree head.
I swing at 105-107 MPH, I had the maverick and a couple of Titleist 917 d2 and d1 with some high end Stiff shafts, Would get 250-260, keeping 40% on the fairway. My misses were both left and right.
Hit the inesis driver, 3 shots with excellent results.
I don't judge ever from one session. 3 sessions over 2 weeks is what I try and judge by. I borrowed his driver. Had long chats with a fitter that how am I not hitting left any more, my miss is a slight fade, ball flight is a little high, carry is 260y with very little roll, dead straight.
Bought two similar drivers with same shafts. Also an Epic on eBay with same shaft and a pull out recoil F2 shaft. Managed to get it to India.
Long story short. Sold my drivers, have two inesis with ladies flex shaft and an epic with a senior flex, still swing at 105 mph, average carry distance is 260, been hitting 275- 285 and dead straight.

My take on the shaft world is, go try with an OPEN mind, try all flexes you will be surprised what might fit you!

quietlivingman
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I swing at 109-115 and I was having a problem getting the ball in the air. I switched from x-stiff to a R and it worked! My ball flight got in the 12-13 launch angle and my distance increased substantially. My original shaft was X-stiff Haz Smoke I switched to the Fugi- Motore FX3. Witch I believe is the best. Supposedly it’s stiff on the ends and reg in the middle. What ever it is it’s amazing!

charlesjeter
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My biggest concern with the Stealth driver was durability. I use a driver for several years (or until I find one that feels significantly better - I currently play a MAVRIK Sub Zero), so having the driver last is a priority. I must admit, I didn't think that the carbon face would fly off, I thought it would just break down over time/use.

jimscott
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i’ve heard this is a common problem. and kudos to TM for replacing it no questions asked but when this driver first came out i wondered if there would be issues with durability. that’s why i bought the callaway rogue max this year

cwugrad
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Video summary for total yards:

X-Stiff = 345
Stiff = 339
Regular = 329
Senior = 337

Only a 16 yard difference from longest to shortest. The top three are only separated by 8(!) yards.

The guy in the video says the difference in yardage could be a big deal on the course. Maybe if you’re a pro. For the average golfer? I doubt it. Probably not worth spending money to switch shafts unless you’re playing for a living. Just use the shafts that came with your clubs. Take the money you saved and play more golf! :)

EMoive
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Hope you got your head issue taken care of! This was a really interesting video, but I usually dig a bit deeper into the numbers before drawing conclusions and, I'd say based on the standard deviations in each measurement and the fairly low sample sizes for each, that there wasn't really much difference in the data for all the shafts.

fretless
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I'm not claiming to be an expert but if I were you I'd switch to whatever the Stiff shaft was and use that going forward. Dispersion was great and only tiny less distance. Also, different shafts have different flex point stiffness which could account for the regular not working as well as the senior.

windyrun
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Would have been a better comparison, if you had used the same shaft brand. The stiffness profiles between different companies are not the same. There is no industry standard. Just my opinion. Great video

davidhast
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The shaft is about feel, nothing else. Flex or profile won't make really any difference on ball flight, spin, or dispersion. Strike is king and shaft flex/weight/profile is about your feel to deliver a better strike. Put any shaft on a swing robot and the results come out the same regardless of shaft. R&A did a huge test on this years ago.

CosmicApe
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Not a very reassuring ad for the durability of the Stealth driver, is it?

johnk.atchley
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As someone who started golfing this year, i bought a set labeled as a beginner set, The Cobra fly xl which comes with senior shafts i learned quickly that they wouldn't work for me. Swing speed about 115-120 on a driver I've gained over twenty yards as well as better accuracy on my driver after getting fitted for X Stiff shafts. Waiting on the rest of my clubs to come as only the driver is here so far.

picryan
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After the first set you looked at the numbers and the amount of spin was around 2, 300 which you said was a little steep, What number are you typically looking for because 2, 300 seems ideal given your Ball Speed etc? Great Video by the way

cutoverpark
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Titleist is the hands down best in class for ‘23.

Steve-a-Reno
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I had a hunch I knew what happened when you hit that confusing weak slice as that’s happened to me with the only 2 stealth heads I’ve ever hit. The second one (stealth 2 +) lasted roughly 150 swings from new. 8 whole days. Average head speed of only 108. What were they thinking launching that thing. What a disaster. It’s like they didn’t test it even a little bit. Went from a taylormade guy to an anything but guy very fast. Wouldn’t even consider spending money on the qi10. Liking the content, thanks for the shaft comparison. Spin results were somewhat shocking.

hairlessmonkey
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Sorry about the driver head! This is so frustrating. Great video. I’ve always played a TX shaft but should probably try other shafts based on your numbers. Thanks!

Orthoshooter
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It’s true that the flex does make a small difference albeit this could be easily overcome by the quality of strike! I’d be interested to know the price of each shaft used. Are we paying higher prices for stiffer shafts but getting minimal gains in yards - assuming we all hit the ball straight?

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