JS Frameworks OR Vanilla JavaScript?

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Should you use a JavaScript framework, or go with Vanilla JS? Most of the time, the top three rules of programming apply: reuse, reuse, reuse. On a rare occasion (especially with ES6) you can use vanilla JavaScript.

My IWD web stack course makes learning vanilla JavaScript as easy as eating vanilla icing on a cake:

Thanks!

Stef
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Al Pacino started coding in his retirement?..hahah

brownpunk
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custom elements and vanilla js, ditch the frameworks. you will be writing components that will work in any framework that may come along. React components only work in react, angular components only work in angular, vue components only work in vue. custom elements work in any modern browser and are framework agnostic.

bcburnettcom
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Currently learning Vue.js as my first frontend framework and loving it. I'm doing a full-stack demo project and I used vanilla JS to implement something kinda complex earlier on. It was a lot of work and I'm sure bugs still probably exist in that code. Then I started learning the basics of Vue and I very quickly implemented a backend dashboard interface. Looking forward to reading through the rest of the documentation and using it more in future projects.

thriftynick
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do a video on the JAMstack (Javascript, API, Markdown)

ouss
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Frameworks vs vanilla is like playing songs vs practicing scales. On the stage you need to play songs, but to play them well you should work on your scales. :)

saxypie
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Thank you Stefan for your vlog videos much appreciated. Question: Stefan, I am curious if the demand for programmers and developers are so high in demand how come there are even more experts posting tutorial videos and teaching materials for others to learn from; shouldn't these experts be better off doing their work projects?

JeanPierreJollivet
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Hey Stef, great video as alwyas. I was wondering if you could make a video about coding interviews especially with Front-End Developping.. If not, is there anything that could help me in the meantime? Thanks in advance. 👍

mouradzaher
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impossible to understand frameworks without knowing vanilla languages. So vanilla first, framework second in turn.

eugenenovikov
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I have been learning vanilla javascript for a while, but I dont know when should I move to frameworks. I have built couple basic apps using only vanilla javascript, for example I built some kind of link adder, you can add a link and remove it and visit that link. Should I move to frameworks and start learning to build more complex applications or should I keep learning vanilla javascript.

fuzzl
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The problem often is that there are NO learning materials for back end JS coding that do NOT also involve using frameworks like Express or Hapi. I strongly feel that you must learn back end JS on its own first before you have enough JS and Node knowledge to be able to appreciate how to integrate Express or Hapi into your app. After that, sure you can save time with frameworks.

dankierson
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Hey stef,
When you talk about Wordpress, do you mean Wordpress.com or .org?

osamashuqom
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Stephan - any thoughts on jQuery? Still relevant or a crutch that’ll limit mastering JS fundamentals?

jacobmoore
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Currently learning vanilla JavaScript.. and am enjoying the ES6 syntax.. Built some app like currency converter with ES6 classes using module pattern.. Panning to learn a js framework, but I don't know which to learn first between react and angular?

ucheduk
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Doesn't this contradict your advice on "standards always win" ? Eg. learning life cycle functions, attribute change handlers etc. of an already built-in custom element feature of a web browser vs React or Angular that reinvents whats already there in own non-standard way.

AlexanderRomanenko
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Hi stef, thanks for the contents. I have a question: can i becom a js ninja using only your course materials? Thanks for the answer.

hamzadahmoun
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currently learning vanilla js along with react js.

Akshay-pcyc
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So how much Vanilla Js should you know? Like should you master DOM manipulation ?

newworld
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Karlie Kloss pimping Wix followed by Stef pumping out the goodness - hell of a combination. :-)

samdavepollard
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Vue is beautiful, but it's taking me 5x more time to build things than with Vanilla JS, maybe with time i'll be faster, but... I can be faster with Vanilla Js too. :/

BHVampireLF
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Great video! Now the hard part, choosing X framework :( the options these days...

techarachnid