The fix is in- Intel microcode update to prevent stability issues/degradation

The ongoing Intel 13th and 14th gen stability issue saga has now resulted in an new microcode update 0x129 being released to prevent further degradation by limiting Vmin to 1.55V. If you have a 13th or 14th gen CPU you should check your motherboard BIOS page and apply this update as soon as it is available for your board.
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[skye]

Exactly same thought here, these games with worse 0129 results may have already degraded.

[Raxiel]

The person @15:12 - That board (MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI DDR4) doesn't have 0x129 yet, the 'new' bios they are testing is 7E07v1D with 0x125 which was released on the second of August. Also the reason they have such a performance drop is that MSI is being very conservative with the load lines and so they're imposing the PL1/2 limits but still blasting voltage and thermal throttling. Adjusting the Lite Load setting in the MSI BIOS to adjust the load lines down should eliminate that.
Things will get very confusing with posts about 'new' BIOSes. My own board (MSI Pro Z790-P WIFI DDR4) got a 'new' bios with 0x125 today, after the first beta BIOS with 0x129 were released, so I'm not going to update yet.
Edit: Now I know what CVE-2024-3687 is, I've decided to update immediately.

[j_shelby_damnwird]

I know that everyone is saying the sensible thing is to install this update/microcode NOW but I think I'm gonna sit tight and wait a little while to see the real effect of it on users. Some comments under these videos are somewhat...concerning. To say the least.

[mathesar]

Well we can ignore the reddit post at 15:05 as this person with the MSI Pro Z790-A DDR4 Wifi is using the older 0x125 microcode, MSI hasn't updated this model yet with 0x129, supposedly all 600 / 700 series MSI boards will be updated by the end of August (per MSI statement).

[Coconutgl]

finally a real fix coming up again! I am so excited to see how the NEXT update going to fix this problem again!

[marcusbighouse]

Since the day I sold one of my livers (lol) to buy a 14900K, I was so worried about mounting everything right that I went into a JayZ video teaching to turn of mobo overclocks and let it at stock (253W). I did it for trust and heat issues (way before this major intel problem came up) and maybe thats what saved me. My CPU works perfectly so far

[ArthropodSpidey]

The problem is that normies don't even know what a BIOS update is.

[zahoranbence]

My two cents on this topic is that because of the oxidation caused by mistakes during manufacturing, the processors have started degrading and atarted requesting higher voltages because of that, in order to maintain performance. And because they requested higher and higher voltages, they degraded further and fuerther to a point where this isssue couldn't go further unnoticed by the public and that is where we are. I think that the update could prevent stability problems on CPUs that haven't had any problems yet, but because of the oxidation problem, even those CPUs will be impacted on the performance-side once they reach a certain age. And that certain age is the age at which the CPUs that have stability problems NOW have started to have those problems. So in the end in my opinion there's no solution to chips that have the oxidation problem. As for those that don't, those don't even need the microcode update. A side note at the end: I wanted to buy an Intel laptop in early July but since these problems started getting more and more common, I now have no other choice than AMD. And now I'm in a position where in my country I could get an Intel laptop which fits my budget, that absolutely crushes AMD's every option within my budget. But I still need to go for AMD. Intel have put themselves in a position so bad that their own shareholders are suing them right now. And the fact that they made a mistake with these processors in and of itself is not a big deal, it can and will happen. But the fact that they basically ignore their customers and hide every single information avalible to them is how they are currently digging their company's own grave.

[Smjh]

Friend updated bios and now windows won't boot unless in safe mode. Removing mobo drivers from device manager and booting up works fine until those drivers inevitably get reinstalled, either from the mobo itself or from windows automatic update. That's tough.

[HMU]

i'm glad this showed up in my recommended, thanks for the update

[Cappuccinoitself]

Installed the update today. Other than all my bios settings being reset to default I've had no other issues. My temps are even a little bit lower. It'son 38 39 when idle where before it was 41 42. On i7 13700k

[gammafilter]

I just updated my asrock pg riptide sporting a 13600k with the 0x129 microcode today. Went smooth. No issues.

[JBFC]

The title is a real piece of art. In my case on a smaller monitor it shows: "Te fix is in- Intel microcode update to prevent stability" 😆

[MoireFly]

I'm skeptical whether a cpu can detect it is degraded. The behavior should be identical regardless of degradation, except for stability issues.

It is perhaps more plausible that CPUs with bad VF curves more frequently hit the new cap, and thus have a greater perf hit - regardless of degradation.

[Alvin]

I don't think the microcode can tell if degradation happened, so all CPUs will run the same performance independent of degradation, just the degraded CPUs will be unstable running these speeds.

[dPten]

Basically, what Intel is doing here is delaying the degradation process with this new microcode update. There should be a discussion about what is caused this problem in the silicon and how that occured in the first place. It will help users decide whether or not to consider Intel in the future.

[qlum]

Minor caviat is that major oem's may have build-in mechanisms to update the bios, I know HP has that at least.

As for performance impact, could be that some users just updated the bios now, so combining the intel default settings which has a performance impact with this microcode update.

[MlnscBoo]

Fantastic video bub. In my opinion you deserve to hit 1mil subs by the end of 2025. Congrats on the sweet new pad too! Keep up the hard work, it will pay off

[NihilistSolitude]

I did the MSI update an immediately ran SC2 which was crashing on campaign constantly and on multiplayer randomly after 12 hours of playing not one crash so far, to my surprise

[skye]

MSI still has not published 0129 for my MSI motherboard (Z690), but I’ll keep checking their website.